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  1. 26/02/2010 21:39 #1
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    sticky bonuses ??

    i'm newish to casino SUBs etc., & can't figure out the advantage of a SUB with a sticky bonus

    perhaps i'm missing something with sticky casino bonuses, but if you adhere to a strategy how can you win on average

    there is always an average house edge & if you withdraw the sticky bonus is excluded from winnings

    or am i totally missing a trick here
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  2. 26/02/2010 22:19 #2
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    Same way sNR's work. Really you wanna double up. Some stickys don't disappear upon withdrawal too
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  3. 26/02/2010 22:51 #3
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    You double up and grind (or withdraw if you can).

    Stickys are +EV because they offer a value bet - you get paid 2/1 on an evens shot.

    There is of course the variance to contend with on a double up though...
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  4. 26/02/2010 23:05 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamylittledream View Post
    You double up and grind (or withdraw if you can).

    Stickys are +EV because they offer a value bet - you get paid 2/1 on an evens shot.

    There is of course the variance to contend with on a double up though...

    i cant get my head round that .... stickys being +EV

    perhaps i should stick to matched betting i understand matched betting & all the maths, etc.
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  5. 26/02/2010 23:40 #5
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    Joey.

    You have approx 50% chance of hitting red.

    If you stick £50 on red you get £50 profit

    If you stick £50 + £50 sticky on red .. you get £100 profit .. + your £50 .. plus the £50 stick still there ..

    Your £50 returned £100 profit .. a 50 - 50 event .. didnt double your money as a "fair bet" should .. it tripled your money.

    With £200 in there you can no treat it as a £100 cash bonus on your deposit and grind through the WR .. or withdrawal.

    In reality £150 balance and £50 sticky is still +EV so you could always try and double again ..
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    This thread covers one strategy for "Sticky" bonuses. It is not the only strategy to use against them but it is the easiest to explain and to utilise. As SDash explains above you use the bonus chips to give you value on your stakes, so offers become +EV.

    http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...ino-bonus.html
    Have a plan and stick to it
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  7. 27/02/2010 01:38 #7
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    Dash has got it all. The sticky is not your money so if you go all in you get to keep all the winnings from the bet, but not pay the losses when doubling up fails. The more times the bonus is doubled the greater the ev is as house money is being used and the amount of wr is greatly reduced due to the large amount of busts.

    Take the TS monthly for example. That is a poor offer if wagered normally but the ev if the bonus is treated as a sticky is with a double up around £21 and about £33 with a quad up so doubling again is very profitable.
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  8. 27/02/2010 13:38 #8
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    In reality there are very few sticky bonuses that are +EV on a double up. Something like 4 x d + B is often the norm these days as the cost of clearing is often high on sticky bonuses due to a restricted choice of games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondgeezer View Post
    In reality there are very few sticky bonuses that are +EV on a double up. Something like 4 x d + B is often the norm these days as the cost of clearing is often high on sticky bonuses due to a restricted choice of games.
    Well most stickys I have seen are decently positive ev with a double up, but considering the ev is always so much greater with a 4* target then it makes sense to go for that.
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