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  1. 30/03/2010 00:35 #1
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    Roulette Computers? £1.3 million made in just two days!

    £1.3 million made in two days aty the Ritz casino in London
    , they were allowed to keep the money!
    I wondered if anyone has any knowledge of these devices, the only genuine site that did reviews was this one that did not try and sell me anything>
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  2. 30/03/2010 03:23 #2
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    Wow, amazing! Sign me up, I'd pay anything to be able to have a super-computer tell me how to beat roulette!
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  3. 30/03/2010 09:34 #3
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    There was a sort of computer device used at Ritz where they managed to get it so it saw the balls speed and trajectory, and the speed the wheel was spinning, and it calculated a section of the wheel the board was likely* to land on. (More likely than the normal odds anyway). And they did slowly win quite a lot of cash using it.

    From what I remember the police were called but nothing came of it, they had not broken any laws because they had in no way tampered with or altered the ball or wheel to create an outcome. The Casino kept the winnings though because A) Back then gambling winnings were not legally binding and B) They could not care less about the bad publicity of not paying that, if anything they would want the publicity so nobody else tried it.

    This has absolutely no use whatsoever when gambling online though. None at all. Long term there is no system or strategy or computer (even DeepBlue) that could ever beat the Roulette wheel. The payout odds are lower than the probablity of it happening. Nothing you can do will change that. So you will eventually lose. Simples.

    Which does not mean it is not fun to try and you can certainly win a lot one day or in one session, but to expect to do it as a long term money making venture is crazy in my opinion.
    Have a plan and stick to it
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  4. 30/03/2010 10:06 #4
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    Yeah that story has been out quite some time, but I enjoy reading about hauls like that!

    It would take some very clever people to be able to make a computer capable of predicting where the ball is likely to land, if it's somehting that interests you you could read "The Eudanomic Pie" (also known as "The Newtonian Casino"). I didn't get round to reading that myself but it's basically a book about a team who attempted to build and use such a device.

    The thing is, as the dealer launches the ball spinning around the sides of the roulette wheel, centrifugal force keeps it there until the velocity decreases to such an extent that the ball leaves the sides and heads towards the spinning numbers of the roulette wheel. Since the velocity at which the ball leaves the sides is a constant, the angle at which the ball travels at this point is always the same - that is a fact of physics. With that in mind, theoretically by measuring the rate of deceleration of the ball, and the rate of decelaration of the roulette wheel, it is possible to calculate a likely landing spot relative to the current position of the ball....

    With just one problem...

    Around the edges of the roulette wheel you have little objects which are called "diamonds" which might look like they're there for decoration, but in actual fact add randomness to the game. As I said, the ball will always follow the same trajectory from whereever it leaves the sides but as soon as it hits one of the diamonds it will be bouncing all over the place. That's why it's so difficult to build a roulette computer.

    I actually have a working roulette computer in my garage which I have been building for years. Currently it is the size of a small family vehicle but as soon as I figure out how to get it into the heel of my shoe I am going to take the casino's for millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rouletteplayer View Post
    £1.3 million made in two days aty the Ritz casino in London
    , they were allowed to keep the money!
    I wondered if anyone has any knowledge of these devices, the only genuine site that did reviews was this one that did not try and sell me anything>
    RouletteComputers.info|
    Just further to my last post and to answer the original post, I seriously doubt anybody with a working roulette computer would sell them on the internet. Common sense would dictate that you would keep that to yourself or as part of a closely guarded syndicate, as that really would be a licence to print money, and big money at that. A scam in my opinion.
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  6. 30/03/2010 22:58 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landprofits View Post
    Yeah that story has been out quite some time, but I enjoy reading about hauls like that!

    It would take some very clever people to be able to make a computer capable of predicting where the ball is likely to land, if it's somehting that interests you you could read "The Eudanomic Pie" (also known as "The Newtonian Casino"). I didn't get round to reading that myself but it's basically a book about a team who attempted to build and use such a device.

    The thing is, as the dealer launches the ball spinning around the sides of the roulette wheel, centrifugal force keeps it there until the velocity decreases to such an extent that the ball leaves the sides and heads towards the spinning numbers of the roulette wheel. Since the velocity at which the ball leaves the sides is a constant, the angle at which the ball travels at this point is always the same - that is a fact of physics. With that in mind, theoretically by measuring the rate of deceleration of the ball, and the rate of decelaration of the roulette wheel, it is possible to calculate a likely landing spot relative to the current position of the ball....

    With just one problem...

    Around the edges of the roulette wheel you have little objects which are called "diamonds" which might look like they're there for decoration, but in actual fact add randomness to the game. As I said, the ball will always follow the same trajectory from whereever it leaves the sides but as soon as it hits one of the diamonds it will be bouncing all over the place. That's why it's so difficult to build a roulette computer.

    I actually have a working roulette computer in my garage which I have been building for years. Currently it is the size of a small family vehicle but as soon as I figure out how to get it into the heel of my shoe I am going to take the casino's for millions.
    Just incase anyone didn't see it, see Derren Brown's fairly recent 'How to Beat a Casino'. Shows the above description to a T, including it's difficulty, with his near miss, predicting 8 instead of the adjacent 30.
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  7. 31/03/2010 17:16 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazed1979 View Post
    Just incase anyone didn't see it, see Derren Brown's fairly recent 'How to Beat a Casino'. Shows the above description to a T, including it's difficulty, with his near miss, predicting 8 instead of the adjacent 30.
    Very true,

    But if you get the chance to see that programme again, watch out for the amount of times he makes a reference to the number 30.
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  8. 31/03/2010 19:09 #8
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    I'm sure there as an episode of 'The Real Hustle' where they used such a computer. They calibrated it first by watching several spins and the started using it for betting. One of the guys memorized the wheel in groups of 6 numbers. The compter would spit out a number when the ball was moving and he would bet chips on the 6 numbers around that number.

    Now, I realise 'The Real Hustle' isn't exactly something to take as science, but they certainly made out like it was true.
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  9. 01/04/2010 10:54 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by passthedutchy View Post
    Very true,

    But if you get the chance to see that programme again, watch out for the amount of times he makes a reference to the number 30.
    What are you suggesting is his motive behind his references to the number 30?
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  10. 08/04/2010 19:43 #10
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    Derren Brown is an illusionist. It's quite literally his job title. He didn't predict, or even nearly predict, a roulette wheel.
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