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In the money: Gambler banned from UK casinos for winning £28,000 using secret system | Mail Online


He is now selling his secret in a book for £100 lol
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You can be lucky with a system too, just like you can be lucky with "normal" gambling over a two months. It's probably just another martingale variation. With Martingale you will win small amounts (relative to your bankroll/betsize) most of the time (if you play a limited number of rounds) and occasionally lose your entire bankroll or the table maximum. Of course you can have a good winning streak with a martingale type system. This is just one of thousands of Roulette system gold diggers out there. Some of them will of course get good short/mid-term gains from their system, due to the existence of variance. Just like it's possible for a whale to gain millions in a year.

Now he's got lots of free promotion for his worthless book. I find it very irresponsible of a serious(?) newapaper to print this story as if the system actually works. I hope all the gamblers who buy his book and lose sue both Mr Sambhi and the newspaper (or, wait ... I hope they lose tons to online casinos so I get better bonuses).

Edit: I see the Daily Mail is not the most serious newspaper around.

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I read up a bit more and it is indeed a martingale variation!!
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"Roulette system that works" = A bit of an Oxymoron really.

Depends which way you come at it though, it works for the Casino. It works for him by selling it if people pay for it. It probably "works" with the assumption you have an infinite amount of funds and the table has infinite limits. In the real World though, to the person buying it, it is unlikely to "work" in the way they imply.

Which doesnt mean it wont, or that buying it and trying wont be fun, but I dont think you have any better chance of winning at Roulette with that system than you do by closing your eyes and throwing some chips on the table letting them fall randomly.
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He claims his system is "all about the maths"

I'd dearly love to know what type of maths makes taking odds of 35/1 on a 36/1 shot profitable.

The only roulette "system" I've ever heard of that actually won was nothing to do with maths & everything to do with wheel bias. And even that was defeated easily enough (change the wheels each night....)



Have to say when I read an article like the Daily Mail one my first thought is that it's a scam cooked up some casino to generate a bit of interest & fool some innocents into thinking there are systems out there that can beat the house edge.
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What I don't understand is why the casino banned that guy... His play is ev- so why on earth would a casino ban him for using a martingale system...
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What I don't understand is why the casino banned that guy... His play is ev- so why on earth would a casino ban him for using a martingale system...
I dont understand it too, in my casino he would be welcome all day long, including free drinks for him and all his followers...
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What I don't understand is why the casino banned that guy... His play is ev- so why on earth would a casino ban him for using a martingale system...
Think Vegas in the 50s and 60s, nothing's really changed. Casinos in the main are run by clueless goons.
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Maybe they thought he was cheating in some way (and maybe he was). Better safe than sorry!
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Maybe they thought he was cheating in some way (and maybe he was). Better safe than sorry!
It's not better if they've barred a -EV gambler who got lucky. What if they barred all winners?

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I read up a bit more and it is indeed a martingale variation!!
Where did you read this?

You didn't buy it, I hope.
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The Daily Mail in their usual lazy fashion have just stolen the article from gamblingonlinemag. Their article is much better and I think he almost certainly got banned from just sitting at the table drinking their free drinks and not actually betting for most of the night. He just picks two sets of four numbers, and then waits until none of those numbers have come up for 12 spins. He then bets the two sets and repeats, increasing some bets but not doubling like martingale. He sat with the journo from the mag for four hours and won the massive sum of ..... £3.40.
The journo makes it clear that the "system" is just rubbish, and he has no advantage over any other punter using any other method or system
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I wish I could win so much... Strategy or no strategy
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