Sticky Bonuses

[Andy]

OK someone asked me about these, and I lost the message so im not sure who, so I hope you find this here:

The basic idea is that you get the bonus up front but can never withdraw it, so you need to use it as leverage to get value from your early bets. There is no point just grinding the wagering, you will end up where you started, but still cant take the bonus out.

So if you put in $100 and get a $100 "sticky" bonus put all $200 on the first hand of BJ, so if you lose it is -$100. But if you win its a balnce of $400, which is +$300 on your deposit, minus the -$100 bonus they take back = +$200.

So on a Evens shot you are getting paid 2:1, thats where the value is. From there you grind out the wagering, and end up in profit.

Sticky bonuses are just as profitable as cashable ones, its just much higher variance, because you will lose half the time, and there is nothing to stop you losing 4 or 5 or 6 etc in a row, which could be bye bye £100s and £100s, so you have to have the bankroll and mental attitude to stomach the variance.

[reginald-cheese]

Once you get more experienced its often good to "sticky" upfront bonuses too. Quicker and you lose less money on wagering on the long term.

[munk]

I proper fscked up the palace of chance sticky no deposit $150 bonus. Did it all perfectly at start, 3% wager per hand (5$), then doubled every time I won a hand... managed to get it up to $250 or so which would have been fine if I'd just chilled out at that point and ground through the wager... but I got carried away ***... 10 mins later... tata... heh.

Live and learn, plus from the posts on that place they probably wouldn't have paid up anyway so nothing lost really.

[Andy]

It realy hurts when you do it with your own money, you will only do it once. Well its OK if you had a strategy at the start and your aiming for a target and just dont hit it, but when you are happily betting small, only to lose 5 in a row so think sod it and double up, then again, then again, then next thing you know your betting 100 just to get even and you lose that and you want to cry. Or something like that. It hurts and you only do it once. A top tip = Dont tilt.

[frankie52]

OK someone asked me about these, and I lost the message so im not sure who, so I hope you find this here:

The basic idea is that you get the bonus up front but can never withdraw it, so you need to use it as leverage to get value from your early bets. There is no point just grinding the wagering, you will end up where you started, but still cant take the bonus out.

So if you put in $100 and get a $100 "sticky" bonus put all $200 on the first hand of BJ, so if you lose it is -$100. But if you win its a balnce of $400, which is +$300 on your deposit, minus the -$100 bonus they take back = +$200.

So on a Evens shot you are getting paid 2:1, thats where the value is. From there you grind out the wagering, and end up in profit.

Sticky bonuses are just as profitable as cashable ones, its just much higher variance, because you will lose half the time, and there is nothing to stop you losing 4 or 5 or 6 etc in a row, which could be bye bye £100s and £100s, so you have to have the bankroll and mental attitude to stomach the variance.

do you know any casinos in britain or elsewhere where i can try this out. thanks. frankie52

[KasinoKing]

If I may interject here, I know it's a matter of terminology but some people call the same thing different things. What you're talking about here is a PHANTOM bonus, not a STICKY one.

By my definition:-

PHANTOM bonus chips are completely removed from your account & lost forever when you cash out.

STICKY bonus chips can not be cashed out, but 'sick' in your account after you withdraw your 'real money' funds. You can then play on with the 'sticky chips', win more real money & cash out again.

e.g. Suppose you took a 100% sticky bonus on $100;
You start playing with $200 in your account.
After meeting WR, lets say you have $300 in your account, and you never went below $100.
You can cash out $200, but the $100 bonus chips are not lost - they stay in your account.
You play on and your bank dips to $25, but then you recover back to $100.
Now you can cash out $75, and still leave $25 'sticky chips' to play on with & try to win more.

Sticky bonuses used to be quite common, but the only casinos I know of who still do them are the Grand Virtual ones.

Just my 2c!

[mac]

i like to call em sticky and super sticky bonuses :P

[Teller]

Hi,

I have question considering strategies of playing stickybonuses.

I will play these casinos next:

ENTERCASINO
MAGICBOX CASINO
CARNIVAL CASINO
CASINO KING
CASINO LAS VEGAS

They all have 150% deposit bonus match, and regular BJ ok for wagering towards bonus.

Which kind of strategy you would prefer for me?

And can someone teach me how to calculate / (and calculate) the expected value of these bonuses. If you using aggresive betting in the beginning in BJ and then normal wager.

I have used also black/red first in roulette and then wager in bj, but if I understood right that not allowed

thanks!

[munk]

Once again Teller sorry your post was auto-marked as moderated when you posted and I only just saw it to validate it - it's because this (and the other post/thread you started that was auto-moderated) has long lists of 'spammy' sounding sites in them I think!

[Andy]

ENTERCASINO
MAGICBOX CASINO
CARNIVAL CASINO
CASINO KING
CASINO LAS VEGAS

There is no point playing at and winning somewhere if they dont pay you. The way you will be paying you will lose at probably at least half of them. The ones you win at will then be a BIG balance, they will not pay you that easily. Personally i would not recommend you play at those places unless you know exactly what you are doing. Dont just look at the bonus, look at who is offering the bonus too.