No idea really. Will be interesting to see if I get any further email offers after cleaning up on this one.
Originally Posted by Human123
32Red are very generous with the bonuses to some people who are actually casual users of the Casino. They certainly used to be anyway but that was if you were in "Club Rouge" and Im not sure if that still exists, im definitely not a member.
They are very quick to stop giving bonuses if you JUST deposit and play for the bonuses, you will do well to get more than three monthly offers from them if thats all you play. I dont think coverplay here is necessarily a good idea, you could play a lot and still get no rewards, when that extra wagering and effort could have gone into another casino, which may have had a very very low EV but at least it was something.
Have a plan and stick to it
I suppose the amount made from this offer will probably cover the amount that could ever be made from their monthlys in the long run.
I'm still limited unfortunately, even though i submitted all the required information well over a week ago. The resolution centre has my status as 'information recieved'.
Originally Posted by darkhorse
When you say "stop giving bonuses" do they send you an email saying you can no longer get them? I don't recieve the monthly emails any more and the automatic bonus crediter never works. But i still ask for the bonuses on live chat and get them added manually. In fact I've had the same bonus added twice before, by asking for it twice. I get the impression that the cs aren't kept to well informed. If you no longer get the 'email only' offers it might still be well worth pushing your luck.
Originally Posted by Andy
Thanks for your weekly diary it is inspiring. I managed to find an arb today when MBing, which I wouldn't really have been looking for if it were not for your posts!
Glad it is has helped and welcome to the forum! It's nice to know that someone is reading
Originally Posted by gimmethemoney
Week 5: 26 - 01 August
This week was really hard. A few errors and bad luck on my part meant the pretty much all of my float has been tied up. The week started well, with the first couple of days being really profitable on the arbs front. Got ~£20 in arbs for each of the 2 days and then got started on the 188bet signup...
Now I started running into trouble. 188bet has a 43xb wagering requirement and incredibly every single one of my arbs and dutches won at 188bet! I was finding it increasingly difficult to get any sort of return out of the bonus. Commision meant that with such a high wr the losses from a 1-2% arb were unnaccaptable, so most of the wr had to be done through dutches. 188bet is also the only booky i'm a member at which has high limits...
At the same time i had also tried to go back into the 32red for the paypal 10% bonus. Because my card had been limited by paypal i accidently clicked pay by e-check. Which not only takes 4-6 days but is also not accepted by 32red! So now i have over £1000 floating around the ethernet somewhere between 32red, paypal and my bank .
This meant that all my arbing had to stop (as i couldn't afford the liability) and i couldn't afford to start any large sign ups (casino or sportsbook). My largest income this week was therefore from trading (apart from 188bet).
The worst thing about the week was from arbing. I found a stupidly big arb and the glutton in me stopped my brain from thinking straight. I went in with about a grand and half liability hoping to make hundreds in profit and take a big chunk out of my 188bet wr. I mentioned it to a friend and alarm bells started ringing. Of course the odds got palped. Which in itself wasn't to bad as i had plenty of time to rectify the mistake. The problem came that I had gone in with so much there wasn't enough liquidity at betfair to trade out! Anyway long story short but after much panicking, calculator work and begging the odds to move i finally traded out for a 21p profit with minutes to go before the match started.
Anyway onto the week stats, I just made my target (and was very lucky to do so) with £263.98 profit:
Did a ladbrokes reload (50% to £10, expired now : http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...onus-10-a.html) and made £5.50.
Did the At The Races casino welcome bonus (100% bonus with 50xb wr http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...lowed-50x.html) and made £11.50.
Another ladbrokes reload (50% bonus with 10xb wr http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...sit-match.html) and made £23.
On the wr for stan james skill games (http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...0-gt-20-a.html) made £2.5. The bonus hasn't been credited yet so that will be in next weeks p&l.
On the wr for another ladbrokes reload (http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...0-5-bonus.html) made 20p. Again bonus not yet credited.
32red's monthly reload (£32 bonus, 25xb+d http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...s-ongoing.html) made £35.50.
118bet's sign up offer (http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...er-notice.html) finally finished at £97.8 thanks to some brutal underlaying at the beggining.
Also made £39.31 from arbs and £48.67 trading.
Week 5 P/L: £263.98
Culmative P/L: £1260.22 out of the target £1250
Back on target!
In trading we saw the final sprint to the finish of the trading challenge which involved me moving up to £6 stakes for the last few days (and one race with £20 and then £40 stakes, but lets not go there ). I have attached my p&l for saturday which, although not my most profitable, is the day i'm most proud of as it shows the greatest amount of consistancy.
Next week will hopefully see the end of my cash flow problems. On the agenda is William Hill casino, which i will not be putting off for another week ! I am also planning to the the Greek's sign up offer. I'm also going to try to combing my trading with arbing. Have a few bookies open while i trade and if i see a horse start to steam snap up the arb before the odds change at the bookies.
Week 6: 02 - 08 August
Didn't have much time for this gambling malarky this week. Pimms and the sun was too perfect a combination. Add to that a couple of impromptu holidays and i was only left with a couple of days to make money.
But that's all is really just an excuse as i missed my target this week making (only?) £241.51. That was mainly on small offers as i didn't do any big signups/reloads this week:
First up was an at the races reload (£10 for 10xb http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...ay-tenner.html), which, stangely enough, I made more from than their signup; which i did last week. £19.5 from that.
As it's the start of a new month got some lovely cashback which although not earned this week i shall still include: £50.
Ladbrokes games reload (dond £5 for £10wr http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...0-5-bonus.html) made £6.
Did coral's dond offer as well (£10 for £100x http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...00-august.html) made £10.7 on that.
Another ladbrokes reload (£20 with 4xwr on blackjack!!!!!!! http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...ack-bonus.html) made £24.5.
A special thanks to Munk and Adam at racing traders for organsing the trading challenge and for all the prizes involved. Got £50 and a years subscription to bettrader from it! Thanks
I did 3 of William Hill's 'buy one get one free' offers (http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...ing-users.html). Getting £2.88, £2.97 and £1.94.
Also did 3 skills sign ups, none of which went as well as i had hoped (http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...0-gt-20-a.html) but i would recommend them as they are very easy and very +ev. Got £8, £3.5 and £9.1.
I signed up to 888sport where so far i have got the first 2 £15 free bets and done ~12 of the qualifiers (http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...-now-50-a.html). So far have made £32.09 due to some very risky horse arbs!
Arbing I made £11.87. This was mainly due to arbing football with losses incurred trying to arb horses . I think i was in too much of a trading mind set so was backing then laying a few ticks below at the exchange 'hoping' that i'd get taken. Really need to rethink my horse arbing dicipline.
From trading made only £8.46 as have not been around much and am taking a bit of a break since the end of the trading challenge.
Week 6 P/L: £241.51
Culmative P/L: £1501.73 out of the target £1500
Still on target (just)!
Next week is another busy week for me, i'm away for the later half of it. But in the first half i plan to do 888casino signup (actually already done it as it finished 01:20 on sunday morning. But will include it in next weeks profits). Willliam Hill casino, Gamebookers sportsbook and betclick. Plus the usual arbs and trading and small reloads.
Here's how I attacked the asian bookies, may be of interest to you may not. I took all the lessons from people doing the american sign ups and applied them here.
I signed the OH to 188bet, £334 deposit, £100 bonus. Signed myself up to 12bet £350 deposit , £70 bonus .. busted the 2 against eachother,
Underdutched so I made £20 on top of the bonus if I won at 188bet .. so £120 worth of bonuses and £4k WR left .. or £110 on top of 12bets bonus if I won there, so £180 worth of bonuses and a £3.8k WR.
This is because 12bet isn't on MBassist it makes finding dutches harder (I thought, turns out its unbelievable easy, they have -105 type lines on unders and overs)
12bets odds meant I found a nice arb on an MLS game, dutched so I would earn £17 on top of bonus if it won at 12bet, or would have my money back (at Coral and Expekt) if it didn't. It didn't win, so £500 was shifted out of 12bet leaving a balance of £371.50.
Signed up to 10bet, deposited £334 (for the bonus) and £76 for the bet I was going to do dutched. Arranged so that I would make a £30 loss but be completely out of 12bet if it wins at 10bet .. and this is with a £100 bonus to come. Or I'll be £18 up with a £100 bonus to come if it wins at 12bet.
Basically, i'm saying dutching the asians against eachother (even though asian vs asian arbs seem impossible) is still very profitable because you avoid WR's. I may sign my OH up to 12bet if I win at 10bet and then bust those 2 against eachother again i'm not sure. I just know if you have the spare cash and can afford too, dutching the sign ups against eachother is a very good way to avoid WR's.
You may well have already signed up at those places I mentioned ofcourse, but just letting you know what worked for me.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools, cos people from a distance can't tell who is who ~ Jay Z
Thanks Super Dash. Sounds so obvious when you say it but it didn't occur to me! 188bet is the only asian that i have signed up to so when i do the others definately use your technique.