Ramping Accusations

[tartantipster]

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These posts have been moved from their original thread here because they serve no purpose whatsoever in their old location other than to take the topic totally off on a tangent.
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--munk

Interesting...a new light.

Also of interest is: www.sbgglobal.com (for example) which stood out a mile for me as they have a poor & well publicised history elsewhere. Yet TGT has them at 8 stars. Hmmm.

BMR: htxp://www.bookmakersreview.com/Reviews/Sportsbook/SBG_Global/ (1 Red List)
htxp://www.bookmakersreview.com/Red_list/

SBR: htxp://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/sbg/ (D-) (But also on Scam alert)

[simmmy]

Lisa,

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htxp://www.sportsbookreview.com/Sportsbooks+Ratings/Rating/ (C-)
htXp://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/24sportsweb/ (C-)


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I had seen this book but decided to pass, I think you should too.

TT.

But you said bet770 was OK ... HAHAHA...COCK

Lisa posted on the 2nd of July and nearly a month later you post old links from second party websites...GO AWAY TROLL.

From a post of yours on RP about bet770

1. I liked the site, set-up, payment methods, choice of markets, initially.
2. Easy to sign-up.
3. Payment processing good.
4. Wagering process very very slow, could be technical hitches, new site, I complained.
5. Odds only fair.
5. Next day, all round website speed much faster, improving all the time.
6. Bets settled in good time.
7. Customer Service will answer your emails, not in 30 minutes, but 12-24 hours, telephone useless!
8. Freebet added in 12-24 hours, I requested it to be sure - choose your own method of communication.
9. No need for a withdrawal, so I cannot comment.

10. Get in and get your bonus, then watch out for offers. I think this book is fine, funds safe (as dated).

[tartantipster]

Also wxw.wagerweb.com (I'll leave it here.) TGT has them rated 6 stars.

I had read quite a few distasteful write ups on them before.

BMR: htxp://www.bookmakersreview.com/Orange_list/
htxp://www.bookmakersreview.com/Reviews/Sportsbook/World_Wide_Wagering/ (2.5 Orange List) Surprised they are even 2.5 here too.

SBR: htxp://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/wagerweb/ (C) Long history of complaints, surprised to see it as a C Book.

[tartantipster]

But you said bet770 was OK ... HAHAHA...COCK

Lisa posted on the 2nd of July and nearly a month later you post old links from second party websites...GO AWAY TROLL.

From a post of yours on RP about bet770

1. I liked the site, set-up, payment methods, choice of markets, initially.
2. Easy to sign-up.
3. Payment processing good.
4. Wagering process very very slow, could be technical hitches, new site, I complained.
5. Odds only fair.
5. Next day, all round website speed much faster, improving all the time.
6. Bets settled in good time.
7. Customer Service will answer your emails, not in 30 minutes, but 12-24 hours, telephone useless!
8. Freebet added in 12-24 hours, I requested it to be sure - choose your own method of communication.
9. No need for a withdrawal, so I cannot comment.

10. Get in and get your bonus, then watch out for offers. I think this book is fine, funds safe (as dated).

Note to Moderator:

Member: "simmmy", Junior Member, Join Date: 04/09/2006, Posts: 11, Thanks: 4, Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts.

This member resorts to foul language, see above in bold&underlined type, lowering the tone of the TGT Forum. Please could you advise him/her on TGT protocol.

simmmy,

Firstly, see above.

Secondly, Bet770.com IS OK. From a Posts of mine on RP, MSE & TGT:

RP, Posted: 22 Jul 2009 21:17, NEWS OF PAYOUTS COMING THROUGH ON TGT!
MSE, Posted: 22-07-2009, 10:16 PM, NEWS OF PAYOUTS COMING THROUGH ON TGT!
MSE, Posted: 30-06-2009, 11:58 PM, htxp://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1786235&page=2 (post 23)
TGT, Posted: 22/07/2009, 21:58, Post #67 (different time settings) htxp://www.thegamblingtimes.com/board/uk-sportbook-bonuses/3937-bet770-no-offer-yet.html

Furthermore, ANDY, Forum Moderator, is an advocate of this site with good experience of them, their ways, and payments, which I had read up on TGT before my posts. I suggest you do the same and read the threads in whole. Reports of other payments are now coming through, there will be many others who have not written up on the Forums.

Thirdly, I will post when it suits me, when I like, if I have time, whenever I come across/notice the post, if I'm in the mood, or not at all. The sites quoted are industry leaders and must be listened to.

The information is perfectly relevant, and important. In the case of SBR posting, this was dated: 3/24/2009 12:21 PM. A fair history is attached to both BMR & SBR. It was good advice, for someone (deduced from the question), who in my opinion, is a beginner - there are plenty other books to do. I simply & clearly answered Lisa's question.

Fourthly, You will also find the post you copied from RP on TGT, htxp://www.thegamblingtimes.com/board/uk-sportbook-bonuses/3937-bet770-no-offer-yet-2.html - 04/07/2009, 16:25, #Post 30. Quote the entire thing in future please:

My experience write-up:

1. I liked the site, set-up, payment methods, choice of markets, initially.
2. Easy to sign-up.
3. Payment processing good.
4. Wagering process very very slow, could be technical hitches, new site, I complained.
5. Odds only fair.
5. Next day, all round website speed much faster, improving all the time.
6. Bets settled in good time.
7. Customer Service will answer your emails, not in 30 minutes, but 12-24 hours, telephone useless!
8. Freebet added in 12-24 hours, I requested it to be sure - choose your own method of communication.
9. No need for a withdrawal, so I cannot comment.

10. Get in and get your bonus, then watch out for offers. I think this book is fine, funds safe (as dated).

It is best to quote all of my posts from RP, rather than one edited one.

Posted: 04 Jul 2009 22:24, htxp://www.rpoints.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1196871&start=0

Those are my experiences of & thoughts on Bet770.com, and the advice given is from my experience, good experience. This is a new book, you would expect 'short-delays' 'glitches' of sorts, and as it's a new book everyone should always show a certain amount of caution - only the minimum should be played through as standard in this type of situation. I gave no guarantees ('think'), no one can, but you can be certain of one thing, "tartantipster does his homework".

30-06-2009 10:17 PM, #11 from MSE.

Bit more googling, it turns out that Flat 1, 26 Cleveland Road is a mail redirection service. So they could be anywhere!

Think I'll wait for Tartan's report before jumping in...

............etc.......

[goroovy]

But you said bet770 was OK ... HAHAHA...COCK

Lisa posted on the 2nd of July and nearly a month later you post old links from second party websites...GO AWAY TROLL.

From a post of yours on RP about bet770

1. I liked the site, set-up, payment methods, choice of markets, initially.
2. Easy to sign-up.
3. Payment processing good.
4. Wagering process very very slow, could be technical hitches, new site, I complained.
5. Odds only fair.
5. Next day, all round website speed much faster, improving all the time.
6. Bets settled in good time.
7. Customer Service will answer your emails, not in 30 minutes, but 12-24 hours, telephone useless!
8. Freebet added in 12-24 hours, I requested it to be sure - choose your own method of communication.
9. No need for a withdrawal, so I cannot comment.

10. Get in and get your bonus, then watch out for offers. I think this book is fine, funds safe (as dated).

You are talking to yourself there .. literally.

TT is solid.

[Andy]

But you said bet770 was OK ... HAHAHA...COCK

To be fair I said they were OK too, just not the quickest of cats in paying but they do pay. I think that has been shown to be a pretty fair review of them hasn't it? Also dont get personal please. If he is wrong ever please say so and prove it, thats then a discussion, and what forums are for. Just saying "your wrong Na Na Na" you can do somewhere else please. Even if/when someone is wrong there is nothing wrong with that because nobody is psychic and as long as they made the best guess with reasons thats fine.

Lisa posted on the 2nd of July and nearly a month later you post old links from second party websites...GO AWAY TROLL.

Yeah you have a point there. The new or current information/posts are great though its not all rubbish.

Also wxw.wagerweb.com (I'll leave it here.) TGT has them rated 6 stars.

Getting off topic a bit but yes we do, 6* = Good to Average sites with occasional slips in service and slight risks to funds

They used to be higher, they are OK in all practical experiance from this sites reviewers though, so it stands. They have their faults, just search this forum, which is why they are at 6*. I personally use them quite regularly including a $500 bet this week (see screenshot) and as long as I am happy to personally play somewhere I am happy to have them at that rating. I couldnt really give a toss what other websites think about them I will base our reviews on what we do/have had happen previously/think will happen in future. I have a lot of time for anyone who actually puts their money where their mouth is and would never have a site I wouldnt play at, at above 6*. (Which doesnt mean its garunteed to be fine but it means it is a sincere view that we think it will).

Also of interest is: wxw.sbgglobal.com (for example) which stood out a mile for me as they have a poor & well publicised history elsewhere. Yet TGT has them at 8 stars. Hmmm.

Yes we do, 8* = Very good sites with negligable risk to funds, top class service.

Thats another fairly accurate description of every encounter I and anyone connected to the site has had and so its staying. As soon as we experiance otherwise it will change. You can "hmmm" all you like, dont play there then. They might change of course, but thats the best description based on evidence for reviewers of this site. So its staying. You will find in all walks of life that "well publicised" opinions do not always equate to "accurate" opinions so I will use my head and take what SBR say with a pinch of salt.

[tartantipster]

To be fair I said they were OK too, just not the quickest of cats in paying but they do pay. Also dont get personal please. If he is wrong ever please say so and prove it, thats then a discussion, and what forums are for. Just saying "your wrong Na Na Na" you can do somewhere else please. Even if/when someone is wrong there is nothing wrong with that because nobody is psychic and as long as they made the best guess with reasons thats fine.



Yeah you have a point there. The new or current information/posts are great though its not all rubbish.



Getting off topic a bit but yes we do, 6* = Good to Average sites with occasional slips in service and slight risks to funds

They used to be higher, they are OK in all practical experiance from this sites reviewers though, so it stands. They have their faults, just search this forum, which is why they are at 6*. I personally use them quite regularly including a $500 bet this week (see screenshot) and as long as I am happy to personally play somewhere I am happy to have them at that rating. I couldnt really give a toss what other websites think about them I will base our reviews on what we do/have had happen previously/think will happen in future. I have a lot of time for anyone who actually puts their money where their mouth is and would never have a site I wouldnt play at, at above 6*. (Which doesnt mean its garunteed to be fine but it means it is a sincere view that we think it will).



Yes we do, 8* = Very good sites with negligable risk to funds, top class service.

Thats another fairly accurate description of every encounter I and anyone connected to the site has had and so its staying. As soon as we experiance otherwise it will change. You can "hmmm" all you like, dont play there then. They might change of course, but thats the best description based on evidence for reviewers of this site. So its staying. You will find in all walks of life that "well publicised" does not always equate to "accurate".

Thanks for intervening Andy, Mr simmmy is not the nicest poster it seems. Hope he takes your comments on board.

I did answer the point fully regarding Lisa. I never post rubbish as those who follow my posts have come to know. I do not like exchanging in 'toing-and-froing' as it dilutes my post/thanks ratio/credibility/and more importantly takes time away from my MB, I take all that seriously - preferring instead to post bonuses & offers.

"...Thirdly, I will post when it suits me, when I like, if I have time, whenever I come across/notice the post, if I'm in the mood, or not at all. The sites quoted are industry leaders and must be listened to.

The information is perfectly relevant, and important. In the case of SBR posting, this was dated: 3/24/2009 12:21 PM. A fair history is attached to both BMR & SBR. It was good advice, for someone (deduced from the question), who in my opinion, is a beginner - there are plenty other books to do. I simply & clearly answered Lisa's question..."

I'm relieved & happy that your experiences at wagerweb & sbgglobal have been fine, I'd never want to hear of you or anyone else losing a penny of their, no doubt, hard earned cash from work &/or MB - we know how much time and dedication it takes to build those profits up.

My threads/comments/posts/feedback are sourced thoroughly from sound intelligence and from people like you and me - MB's, other gamblers, and I listen to this very vast influx of data intently. I like to keep a good flow of info.

In the end only you yourselves can decide, I wish you good luck always

[simmmy]

You are ramping betting sites knowing they are slow payers or having trouble getting new money in to pay old money, meaning your money. You post these offers on here on MSE and other sites with a agenda of your own.

[slim]

You are ramping betting sites knowing they are slow payers or having trouble getting new money in to pay old money, meaning your money. You post these offers on here on MSE and other sites with a agenda of your own.

I understand why you think that, it's not something that hasn't crossed more minds than just yours, but what evidence do you have?

Surely you should have some evidence before calling someone out like that in public, otherwise wouldn't you just avoid sites he recommends and suggest to people you know that they do the same?

If you have some evidence, please post it or PM it to me.

[Andy]

You are ramping betting sites knowing they are slow payers or having trouble getting new money in to pay old money, meaning your money. You post these offers on here on MSE and other sites with a agenda of your own.

I dont think that is true either. As slim says if you have any evidence of this please PM someone about it. Otherwise let it go. You might be right, but its one of those things, there is no need to get worked up about it and please dont start a row about it.

TT please dont reply there is absolutely no need, you have no need to defend yourself everyone who has read your posts can make their own minds up. Nothing you say now will change that opinion. I will PM you both actually, please dont reply on this thread again. Thankyou.