is the gravy train over?
Relatively new here and have just been reading some awe inspiring posts. Figures been quoted made by some senior members are amazing. However it seems a few are disillusioned and exiting the life of mb etc.
Is this cause the money just isnt there anymore? I can see the possibility of making a grand or so from listings and the diaries some people are doing(thanks for these theyre great reads) but not much more. How do u continue when u've exhausted the supplies?
Anyway i mb for the first time today and have to say i had fun doing it.
Im starting with a tiny bank and hoping to turn it into something bigger. May even start a diary myself.
oh and one more question. Whats gubbing?
Definitely seems to be slower for me at the moment.
However, i have an account at almost every euro and uk bookie going.
But even looking at some of the signup offers at the moment compared to when i first started a year ago and they are alot tighter for sure! Some sites dont even have any sort of bonus anymore which was unheard of when i first started.
Not sure if its because of the "credit crunch" or maybe bookies have just caught on and prefer to push their -ev casino offers instead?
Gubbing. Basically not allowed to bet at a certain book any longer, because they have found you out to be the bonus abusing, arb whore scum that you are
Originally Posted by howardmarks7
As for the original question. I have been at this 5 months and made just shy of £4k. I remember reading threads when I started saying it is all over, the world is coming to an end and so on. I also had a look to see how many times that question had been asked on other forums over the last few years. Answer, a hell of a lot.
There are hundreds of books/casino's/poker sites out there all offering something, and many of them offering reloads. I am sure you are good to go for the next few years.
thanks for the quick response lads on both counts. gonna give it a try anyway. been playing poker the past three years and started to get bored. need a new challenge.
If you ever hear a term you are not sure about it is possibly listed here, if it isnt just ask and someone will help you out (see above) and if enough people ask it will be added to the page:
The Gambling Times | Viewing Article "Gambling Definitions"
To answer the question has it run out, I would say no. It is just different from before, the whole thing is very fluid and nothing stays the same forever. Casinos have changed a lot, they are MUCH worse than before, Poker too (although I never took advantage when it was good anyway), Sportsbooks = The US facing ones I find harder to make money, but there are just as many UK, Aus and Euro offers as ever though really.
New sites, Offers, Promotions come and go all the time with little rythm or reason, just jump onto everything in site as quickly as possible is our advice. Some people hang about hoping an offer will get better. It might do. But it might not. If it is on the table now though I would take it nobody ever got poor banking a profit.
There is a large list of Sportsbooks here all of whom have had a +EV bonus scheme at one time, although check the individual sites themselves to see if they are still running:
The Gambling Times | Bookmakers, Reviewed By The Gambling Times | Claim Cashback
Goodluck, keep us posted how you get on. Everybody has a different style there is no right or wrong, it will be interesting to see what you decide upon and how that gets on.
Have a plan and stick to it
My "statements" show I made more in 2009 than I did in 2008 which was more than I made in 2007. I'm pretty sure that there will be a number of people in exactly the same position. I've just looked at the first 60 bookmakers listed (well it's technically less as that 60 involved non bookmakers too) on the TGT Bookmakers reviews list and there's 13 I have no account with. Sure, some signups aren't as good as they once were, some rollovers may be bigger etc but if you get on with it, learn to be as efficient as possible, learn some of the tips and tricks which might be shared throughout the board then you should be just fine in getting to a point where you've a bankroll which works for you and profit making isn't entirely dependent on signups.
Anyway, welcome to the site and good luck with your betting
IMO the general nature of everything (in life!) including AP is that left to itself it will gradually decline & if you don't want it to then you need to be taking active steps in the opposite direction.
Thus if you don't want to end up 100lb overweight & unable to get out of your chair without assistance by the time you're 50, make sure to do some regular training etc.
Jobs, in my experience, always get worse. The work increases, the conditions deteriorate, & most of the people you get on with tend to move to a new job. So improve your skills & make sure that you're one of the ones moving to a better, more well-paid job & not one of the ones left behind in a job you hate.
Chances are that wherever you live will go "downhill" over time. Only thing you can do about this is try to put yourself in a position where you can move to a better area if you need to.
AP is no different. The offers will almost certainly get slowly worse. The trick is to offset this by striving to learn as much as you can about the different offers out there (how to MB horses, how AHs work, how spread offers work, etc etc). The combination of you're increased efficacy as a MB-er & the extra options available to you as your bankroll increases should be sufficient to offset any decline in offers.
All just IMO but the above has certainly all been true for me.
Originally Posted by Fella
Fella if you wrote a book id buy it , you talk good stuff man .
I was originally going to quote Fella's post and say what excellent advice that was. Some very wise words.
Originally Posted by LFC81Eoin
Eoin - if you gave a book a positive review, I would buy it
There is still plently money to be made. BlowingBubbles, for instance, has been doing this for a long enough time and has been taking every penny he can get. Yet, each month, he is still capable of banking £3K.
It's still there - just ask questions, study the system and go after it. For the last 6 months I have been working with a float of £2.5-3K and I have averaged something like £700 per month. I am only gubbed on 2 books (365, SpurtingBet), have yet to hit the US books and have several other £/€ books still do to.
More importantly, my skills increase significantly each month - it's a constant learning curve.
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