On the Verge

[neverbetbefore]

Hi,
Just opened my Betfair account and deposited some cash there. I was going to tackle the following bookies including any cashback available:
Coral, BetCronicle, Jaxx, Bwin, Stan James
Do you see any problems with the above I think the first four are SR.
What bookies are worth waiting for Cheltnaham/World Cup/Ascot etc
Thanks

[DireEmblem]

I would be tempted to suggest you jump into corals asap to take advantage of the 10% CB imo...

But then again, since you are starting out new, it may be more worth you taking advantage more of "new account offers", so hopefully others here will give you more of their opinion.

[Dazzler]

I recommend setting up a separate bank account and email too. Get a copy of Ultimatcher to keep a record of your progress too.

Not sure how up to date this is but should be of use
Bookie Info

Use the links on the TGT site to claim your £5's back.

Double check everything.

Regards Cheltemham (mid-March) I remember it was a little disappointing last year with regards the offers and there was a BlueSq fiasco. However bookies that you would traditionally look as horses are the ones to leave if you want to do it that way. Ladbrokes, Sky, Blue Sq, Paddy power are ones that spring to mind.

HTH

[My_User_Name]

Could you please elaborate on the BlueSq fiasco?

[Dazzler]

Yup - I will try and dig out a thread. BlueSq offered a Free £250 sign-up bet for subscribers of a Sky based racing channel. Lots of people jumped on a 3-1 shot as a qualifier, The horse won and bluesq refused to pay out to those that were not a bona-fide subscriber - leaving those people down about £700. However the terms were ambiguous as I think they said viewers and not subcribers. It ended up either in court or with the regulators, eventually ending up on the side of the bettor I think.

Most of the above is about right I'm sure the details are a bit off - the upshot is make sure you comply with all Ts&Cs and if you don't understand then ask the customer service.


Resolution in favour of the bettor http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...ning-bets.html

Match betting is not risk free. Recognise that:
- The most common risk is losing money from a mistake (something we have all done to varying degrees).
- There is also the inherent risk that a bookie may not honour bets/offers.
- There is also the risk of bookies going bust.

[neverbetbefore]

Just noticed a free £20 bet with coral on the betrescue site would this affect the cashback as i was going to sign up through this site. £10 more than the normal coral website is showing. What should I do
Thanks

[Andy]

Hi,
Just opened my Betfair account and deposited some cash there. I was going to tackle the following bookies including any cashback available:
Coral, BetCronicle, Jaxx, Bwin, Stan James
Do you see any problems with the above I think the first four are SR.
What bookies are worth waiting for Cheltnaham/World Cup/Ascot etc
Thanks

Hello, general advice, which is my advice, will be different from others advice, and at the end of the day its up to you its your time/effort and £s involved so ultimately you call the shots.

RE Betfair, before you do anything anywhere else spend at least, and I mean AT LEAST an hour just playing with it. Have £25 or so in your account only so thats all you can lose anyway and get to know how it works. Back in play, lay it off, put in multiple bets on the same market and see how the Net liability changes, put in unmatched bets at speculative odds to see if they are taken, bet where there is not enough money available at your odds and see what happens to that lay box, etc, etc, etc. There is more to do than I can list really but just do play with it using £2 bets and see what happens.

The very very very worst case result is you lose £25, if that means you now have a full grasp of how to operate a Betfair account it will be the best investment you ever make. And you might even make a profit from it you have just as much chance of making £25 as you do of losing it.

RE Bookmakers to join everyone you listed is reputable and will pay you with no trouble and have good CS etc etc. RE The bonuses they offer, these come and go and change all the time but I think BWin would be a very good one to start with and alongside Coral is definitely a stake returned bonus. The others may be im not sure they change all the time if in doubt ask the sites CS.

RE Bookies worth waiting for overall the advice of this site is to just join everything you can as quickly as possible. Offers come and go and go up and down and sometimes disappear altogether. Waiting is just going to garuntee you dont get any reloads, and you run the risk of getting nothing there is no need to be greedy. There is a limit to that though and obviously if it is Febuary the 28th you are probably better of waiting a fortnight for Cheltenham to have a see if something is improved/better, but 9x out of 10 just join now and get on with it.

RE Betrescue, it's entirely up to you. All we can say is that if you join somewhere from this site we promise to do our best to help you if there is any trouble or problems. How much we can help in practice varies from helping a lot, getting you paid/paid quicker, refunding any unfair fees you are charged, etc, etc, through to not being able to help at all. We would always try though. Join via BetRescue and have a problem and you have to go to them to sort it out really.

RE The Coral sign up offer you are only talking about a £5/£10 difference anyway though which is neither here nor there and is not something I would particularly consider as being important. Every month Coral do a 10% cashback on losses offer up to £250, along with BOG and decent Horse betting limits, you can make a good few hundred from that with some luck/underlays and hedge it so even without you can get £50 or so. Just as an example there, overall I dont think you should get too hung up about it. I would like to think you will make so much from the actual gambling that anything else is chump change and shouldnt really be on your mind.

What are your aims/targets? From your username I assume you are not a heavy gambler, whats made you start/find this site? What types of betting and gambling are you now thinking about studying/learning?

All the best and whatever you decide goodluck.

[munk]

neverbetbefore - if you're just starting up it's worth checking the threads tagged as follows:

The Gambling Times - Threads Tagged with beginner
The Gambling Times - Threads Tagged with guide

The beginner threads have a lot of useful info if you're just starting out and the guide threads are useful for info on say dutching and general terminology.

Cheers.

[betty_swollocks]

I would definatly recommend using ultimatcher spreadsheet to record your process. I came back to mb a few months back & it's helped me loads, keeping track of everything.

In terms of mistakes if you do this for long enough you will make a few. I have made loads and I always get pissed off when I lose money but in grand scheme of things it will be peanuts to what your making. So if it happens keep it in context and move on to the next offer.

Only thing to add;
Try to double check all your bets.
Dontbet on the horseys until your comfortable with betfair.
Watch out for two teams playing each other in the same week. Easy to bet on wrong match.
Setup a moneybookers site in £
read all the help threads both here and on mse.

If not sure of anything just ask. Good luck

[neverbetbefore]

Hi Guys
Thanks for all the replys the only target I had set was to make a few £s for the summer holidays. I would also like to give the casino bonuses a go as well,but one thing at a time. Is there any of the bookmakers that offer casino at the same time.Do they have to be done at the same time or can I wait to later to possibly get something from them. Will try to make a few of Andys suggested bets on Betfair to get me started.