But THAT blatantly wrong decisions? Why should they be? Why do FIFA insist on not introducing video technology? (I'm after the real reasons, not the BS they tell the media)
wrong referee decisions are a part of soccer.
Game theory, I think that's what they call it these days!
Originally Posted by Fella
Blatter is a luddite (as is John Motson, for those who watched the post match discussion). Once these dinosaurs die off we might make some progress, but not before.
Originally Posted by My_User_Name
Don't hate the player, hate the game!
The real reason is becasue of politics and backhanders and downright corruption within FIFA.
Originally Posted by My_User_Name
Blatter wanted or was under pressure for a certain company (can't remember who - will try and find out) owned by Jack Warner's (an influential and highly corrupt senior member of FIFA) son to be in charge of the development of the technology.
It screamed out corruption and so FIFA dropped the idea altogether with the BS statement about football being about humans , mistakes and having the same structure from World Cup to grassroots.
Its probably on here somewhere -
Transparency in Sport
I understand what you're saying, Fella.
Within the sport I played as a junior (the 'gentleman's sport' of badminton), cheating was rife from club to country level. If you played fair, as I did, and said "I don't know if that hit the line, let's replay the point" rather than calling it out (and some of them just called it out when it was miles in!) then you stood out because you went against everything parents were telling the kids.
It may not have been my job to officiate my own game but I did feel it my job to play the sport in a way which meant I would win because I was the better player rather than I would win because I was the better cheat. Such a statement shouldn't sound like a romantic way of playing or something unachievable, it should sound like "yes, that's how it should be and can be". And because I didn't cheat, I expected my opponent to play fairly and pretty much all my arguments on court were about my opponent cheating. We're talking here about children aged under 13... how sad is that?
Though I won plenty of tournaments, my best award was a sportsmanship award... but why did I get it? I was only playing like every other child should have been playing but I was proud I retained my character when the easy thing to do was just to say "well, it's all part of the game and everyone else does it." It is possible to display good character and win which is something a lot of people believe isn't the case.
Can I argue that's it's not cheating if you see the ball cross the line and say nothing? No, because it goes against everything I want players to do and I practised in my sport. People will always say "it's all part of the game" or "maybe if it was a kick about he would have said it crossed the line... but it was the World Cup/game which earned a lot of money for the club!" (therefore removing honesty from the picture due to a game's significance) but it will never make it right in my eyes.
To me, putting your hand up for a throw when you know you kicked it out is cheating. Why is that 'just what you do' rather than cheating? Because the sporting bodies accept it, staff accept it, other players accept it, the fans (largely) accept it - it's the culture of the sport and it gets its own part in the football library named 'gamesmanship'. Once, when I played football, I was berated by my own team for pointing out I deflected the ball for a corner when no-one else knew.
Such a culture is hard to stomach for anyone who either plays fair (not by the definition of the masses in the sport) or plays a sport where there is no focus on trying to con refs and umpires. Football has made very little attempt to change the culture and although we can point to this keeper, it's the big picture that needs addressing as it leads to his actions being seen as any way acceptable.
I think the term 'cheating scum' is a bit harsh, any goalkeeper would of reacted the way he did by turning around and catching the ball. Whether that action influenced the lineman's decision is another factor but I don't think the goalkeeper deliberately set out to gain an advantage. The right thing to do would be for the goalkeeper to go and own up to the linesman that it was a goal, I think a better word for it is unsportsmanship rather then 'cheating scum'.
If we as England fans should be angry at anyone it is FIFA for not implementing goal line technology by now.
Considering time is wasted when people go down then have to walk off to come back on immediately (the exact opposite of what it was meant to achieve), it really is a disgrace that they've not gone for video technology on key issues and instead opted to trial having 5 officials on the pitch + a dugout ref.
As we've seen with tennis, Rugby League and Cricket, having something get referred to 'the big screen' / off-field referree, it creates an added excitement! Moreover, you almost always get correct calls unless the call is not clear from any angle or requires discretion... generally that wouldn't be the case in football since technology should be able to decide if the ball is over or not.
And when they say it'll slow the game down... well between the ball crossing the line and going out yesterday, the correct decision could have been obtained and when the ball went out, fed to the referee. Total disruption to the game = zero!
BB, everytime I see yur avatar, I'm left wishing he had been given a chance. Pah, to go out with someone who plays passionately would have been something at least!
"Pay no attention to what the critics say. No statue has ever been erected to a critic."
Agree - win fairly and be a good sportsman even in defeat. Shame the England team didn't even thank the supporters.
Ok/Good teams always win trophies, cups and medals - most people forget them and they are replaced with next years winners. Great/Excellent teams win them fairly and are remembered years down the line. In the end history will be the judge.
Originally Posted by blowingbubbles
Duly noted Bubbles.
FIFA are cheating scum.