How much do the affiliates make?

[Human123]

Just had a bit of an eye opener reading about affiliate earnings.

Is this where the smart money is to be made?

Seems you can make 20-40% of a clients net losses which must add up to alot if you have alot of clients or even just a few high rollers.

Browing online it seems there are people making £10k+ per month from casino affiliations. I obviously know thats not a realistic target but was wondering if any one knows someone who does this and if its worth taking a closer look at.

[Nintendo2k]

To get those kind of casino earnings I am guessing you need some highrollers. I think it is not as easy as one would think to hook those highrollers to your affilliate tag as one would think.

Also the 20-40% of net losses may sound good, but when you do the + and - of it, it won't be as much as you would think for every site. Some people will win big, others will break even, and some will lose. Maybe especially for AP sites you will find that people breaking close to even before cashing out. From looking at payout reports here and elsewhere, people tend to cash out even if it is just £25, and even if that is the amount they deposited anyway.

I have seen that some sites offer a bounty for every head (Betfair?? Idk)... that may be worth more I guess as you would have a much more predictable income.

And also some sites get better deals than others. Take a look at the top 5 earnings to the right hand side here:
Sports Betting Affiliate Program - BookMaker Sportsbook Betting

Almost $125k (!!) in affilliate earnings for one month. I am guessing that must be some SBR-ish site that has a special deal, I don't know. I have read that they have pretty sweet deals with certain bookies like Justbet and Phoenix groups of bookies.

Sites like freebets.co.uk advertise on races, and from what I hear that costs a lot of money. I doubt that they pay for that just with affilliate money, but more likely also because sites pay to be allowed to advertise there. If you google free bets I am sure that site would come pretty high on the list, and that is worth a lot of money for the bookies.

[Spooky]

Yeah the top few are SBR which is by far and away the biggest.
Covers as well.
A couple of individuals make the list once in a while.

Whatever business you work at can be successful based on the time and effort you put into it.

Certainly 10g per month is not out of the question but again it doesnt happen overnight.
The same high roller can make a nice score and then you are working for Free for quite some time.

Just my 2 cents

[Spooky]

Duplicate post..sorry

[kidpoker]

You have to think, every high roller that losses, there is another that is winning. And it goes by everyone you have that has ever signed up under you. So you dont get losses on one player, it is the net of everyones wins and losses. And bonuses they get count as wins also. ANd it isnt by every month, if your players are up 10K one month, you have to have over 10K in losses the next month to get paid anything. THey also usually have high amounts you have to earn before they will pay and if you dont hit they, they carry it over to the next month. I very rarely get paid anything. WHen i do, it is a nice surprise to say the least. I want the signups more for getting better deals done, and leverage to get better bonuses for the forum. But every once in awhile, I get a little something.

The big money comes from places like the therx, sbr, etc. That have a ton of people that visit there everyday, and people that handicap bet. I am talking about tens of thousands of people at one book under them i bet. These players are not bonus hunting, they are doing it to stay at one book for a long time, and bet hundreds or thousands on games. ANd in the long run, 85% of people that handicap bet, are net lossers. They also pay people that say they are professional handicapping services that actually suck, and people follow them and lose their ass.

If you spent time at some of those forums and listened to them talk and bet, you would be amazed. THeir are some very uneducated people to sportsbetting on those forums.

[Nintendo2k]

Thanks for the insight kidpoker and Spooky. Certainly interesting.

I had heard about that negative turnover thing, but I am sure I have read "no negative turnover" lots of places. I don't reallly follow the affilliate business though so I can't say what it means. I am guessing there are other restrictions in place somewhere.

And yes I had heard that bookies like to hire cappers that put ot crap plays... I actually read on some forum that Spooky and his associate junkman were hired touts by bookies to put out bad plays.

[Fella]

I don't know much about affiliating (!) but I remember reading once about a largeish affiliate who made good monthly money until one of their punters hit some huge slots jackpot (one of the VERY big ones apparently) which meant the aff got nothing at all for months from that chain of casinos 'cos that one punter made them a net loss-generating affilate even though they'd generated tons of losing punters. Like I say, I'm no expert on it though & I presume different aff deals work in different ways.

[Spooky]

Thanks for the insight kidpoker and Spooky. Certainly interesting.

I had heard about that negative turnover thing, but I am sure I have read "no negative turnover" lots of places. I don't reallly follow the affilliate business though so I can't say what it means. I am guessing there are other restrictions in place somewhere.

And yes I had heard that bookies like to hire cappers that put ot crap plays... I actually read on some forum that Spooky and his associate junkman were hired touts by bookies to put out bad plays.

I was never hired to put out plays. One thing I have is my reputation.
The reason for the Spooky Express was from the guys at the first forum I frequented years ago that said I was an Express for all the winners I gave out.

Junkman owned a sports service off and on the past 20 years so he has been in the business but gave that up when becoming an affiliate. It was kind of a contradiction.

Just want everyone to understand that if I post a play I played it myself.

Kid Poker was right on with many of his points.

Personally I sold my business and always said find something to do that you love and then find a way to make money doing it.
So thats why I am an affiliate.

Not only with sportsbooks but also with Amazon.com and other business sites.

[Spooky]

I don't know much about affiliating (!) but I remember reading once about a largeish affiliate who made good monthly money until one of their punters hit some huge slots jackpot (one of the VERY big ones apparently) which meant the aff got nothing at all for months from that chain of casinos 'cos that one punter made them a net loss-generating affilate even though they'd generated tons of losing punters. Like I say, I'm no expert on it though & I presume different aff deals work in different ways.

Absolutely. I have gone a few months without getting paid. But my objective is obtaining new players, customer service and having them play.
There is safety in numbers so thats why I dont mind guys winning. I like when the guys win. They come back and feel confident where they are playing.
With lots of players though the majority will lose and the more players you have the better bonuses I can obtain, contests I can offer to my guys and higher percentage of earning a small check every week.

[kidpoker]

Ha, i dont think books hire handicappers to put out bad plays, there is enough professional handicappers out there already with big names that are awful, so they wouldnt need to. Just watch the movie two for the money. It is about one of the worst handicappers out there. Loses money every year, and many people a lot of money, and sells his picks for big money also. the thing they focus on is not the picks, they focus on marketing and promoting, and they are good at that.

Thanks for the insight kidpoker and Spooky. Certainly interesting.

I had heard about that negative turnover thing, but I am sure I have read "no negative turnover" lots of places. I don't reallly follow the affilliate business though so I can't say what it means. I am guessing there are other restrictions in place somewhere.

And yes I had heard that bookies like to hire cappers that put ot crap plays... I actually read on some forum that Spooky and his associate junkman were hired touts by bookies to put out bad plays.