This is a dreadfully spiteful thread.
I don't see anything spiteful about saying benefits should go to people unable to help themselves instead of people perfectly able to? I really don't.
What kind of mean-spirited individual wouldn't happily pay more in tax so that rich individuals and companies can use the infrastructure & services of the UK but pay their taxes elsewhere.
It would be madness to have a fair and equitable system incase these people fled our shores and go to errrr
As it talks about evasion, benefits and so on: Monbiot.com The Lax Tax Pact
I'm happy to pay taxes so that the chavs of this society who cant be bothered to get a job and probably get more on benefits than I earn, can buy new bling, pop out 5 kids and have a nice holiday to Magaluf every year....just wish the plane would leave them there on the way back
Monaco, Switzerland, Isle of Man, many others. You can't force people to stay in the UK & pay tax. Labour tried in the 70s with their 83% higher rate for anyone on £20K or more a year. All that happened was a mass exodus of high earners.
I see quite a few vunerable members of society through my job and it is sickening how they struggle compared to some of the lazy benefit gang scum
however the greed at the top end of the system is even more sickening , but in a morally bankrupt country run by self serving pricks what can you expect
Some discussion of welfare reform on the BBC website today:
BBC News - Welfare reform: Your views
The third comment down from Michelle Evans neatly sums up most of what I detest about benefits abuse & people like her. An excerpt of her comments:
"I have a first class degree. I work one day a week but I am still seeking full-time employment. What if I refuse three jobs in a row, will my benefits be cut? I don't want to accept any job that is offered to me....
There you have the problem summed up in a few sentences IMO. There isn't a shortage of jobs. There's a shortage of jobs people want to do. Michelle from London & plenty like her think it's their right to live off the work of other people while they spend their time looking for their dream job. And if they don't find it, they think it's their right to continue to live off the toil of others indefinitely. She's already squealing in protest at the throught that if she turns down THREE job offers she might lose some of her handouts. If you aspire to a dream job, that's great. But GET A JOB AND PAY YOUR OWN WAY while you look for it, like most of the rest of us do.
People like her are a shitting disgrace.
BTW I'm beginning to see why so many people complain about the BBC's coverage of news. The five comments given large coverage in that article are all opposed to the reforms. At the bottom there is a small section of "Other comments", the first three of which are all in favour of them. Nice bit of unbiased coverage there.
Yeah agree with that. People seem to have forgotten that, if you want to get anywhere in life sometimes you have to "rough it". Back in the day, when I was doing sh*t jobs, I didn't do them out of "choice" I did them because I wanted to work and get on in life and I started at the bottom.
Originally Posted by Fella
I do believe there are people out there struggling to find work, and I hope thst these reforms don't somehow hit them, but as for the people who come up with excuses and reaons not to do a job, then yeah, pull the benefits!
The Michelles of this world need to wake up. Life ain't easy.
I really do not understand the anger that people have about benefits. There are far worse things to worry about and far more constructive ways of channelling those feelings. I don't feel seething resentment for people with flat screen tvs and iphones payed for by the state. They aren't wealthy, are they happy? Thats debatable. Its not what I want out of life. I prefer to let others make their own choices and I will make mine. We have social problems and the welfare state should be designed to help people and obviously it isn't doing that at the moment.
There is nothing wrong with having a political point of view but labelling people who have broken no laws demonstrates a lack of understanding about the world and culture in which we live, in my opinion. It seems we only value money in this society and respect those with lots of it. There are plenty of people out there working for much less than they could do. These are the people in our society that should be respected the most.