Independent sports arbitrage trader... which is usually followed by me advising them to refer to the wikipedia page for arbitrage betting for an explanation of what it means (and after trying to understand that they usually drop the subject)!
Don't hate the player, hate the game!
I spend much too long concentrating my 'working' day on reading up about APing. I'm quite lucky in my job that 80% of the time I'm not that busy. However I still prioritise APing over my day job. Unfortunately for me but fortunately for my employer I can't bet at work otherwise I would never be away from the game. My work is not really monitored so as long as I chug along and ensure the important stuff is done I can slip under the radar to a certain extent.
Only this morning I felt I little guilty and thought rather than searching for new SUBs etc I would try to get my weeks work done so later in the week I am free to focus solely on APing, without the guilt as my work came first. Then came a team meeting where it became apparent that although people appreciate my work they don't take me seriously. I worked really hard, on a project with a mate but it appears that the team would rather ask them for advice or help than me. As I put a lot of effort into this project I quickly came to the realisation that no matter how hard I work I will not get treated any differently to when I just chug along. This has happened in most places I work and in the days before I used to chug along!
This left me with an easy decision. Work hard at the day job or chug along making extra money Aping, knowing that either way my colleagues will respect me the same? So I decided to pack in Aping and crack on with the day job!!! Seriously though days like this make me know I made the right decision in focussing on Aping. The way I see it is that your career is often mapped out by a suit that only cares how many bums you kiss and not the graft you put in. There are a lot of people in the office environment who play the game; my problem is I refuse to suck up so my opportunities are limited.
Sorry went on a little rant then. The reality is I don’t like work and wish I had made a career for myself away from the office environment but as Stickleback says you need to pay the bills. And if I was in a working environment where they monitored me Aping would have to take a back seat as being a family man cold hard cash comes first. However I’m in a position where I can get the salary and focus on Aping whilst putting my career on the back burner. Probably not the way it ‘should’ be done but it works for me. And funnily enough it makes work that little more bearable!
What you have said sums up my situation and my experiences of office work perfectly. It is very demoralising how much success in the office often depends on playing the game and making a song and dance about the work that you do. Another thing I like about APing is that sitting quietly and getting on with your work is effective -the money you make speaks for itself. In an office environment it seems that sitting quietly and getting on with things can count against you as it does not get you noticed by the powers that be.
Originally Posted by Tebs_on_tour
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Originally Posted by TheWanderer
A very interesting topic TheWanderer, good stuff!
I can only speak for my situation and in my current position it is very difficult to equate work effort with the salary I take home. As others have said this is totally the opposite to APing - where it is directly related.
My career situation is that it has been extremely up and down (monthly) in terms of motivation, enthusiasm, recognition, opportunity, effort etc. Yet my salary is more or less fixed monthly - therefore is my employer is balancing their AP in me based past, present and future performance? Or am I playing AP in doing what I can to cover the house edge to keep my monthly pay?
An interesting point for me: I do find that that when I am highly motivated by work, AP fades into the background - I've even missed the low hanging fruit in the past! When work becomes a drag, AP become a real focus - to the point of going for the tricky WR's - for the challenge. Perhaps against the flow in this thread, I believe, when you have a good boss a great team and objectives you believe in at work - it equals AP in terms of satisfaction. Regardless of equating this to the £££ or hourly rate.
Finally, I don't think AP (2 years only for me) has in anyway negatively affected my career. It has actually brought me a number of positive attributes that I didn't have before. Such as - calculated risk taking (if that exists!) and a better appreciation of numbers,
Well as I'm sat in an office waiting for work to be given, so I thought I'd add my two cents.
I'm on a gap year at the minute, and I've been trying to find ways to make a bit of money online since I was about 14, generally because a 9 week summer holiday with no work to do can drag on a bit, and rather than waste it sat in front of the TV, I thought I may as well be doing something useful/productive (I'm the type of person who hates being too busy until he's not busy at all and then wishes he had something to do). I'm also fairly business/economics minded and always have been really - the young enterprise company that I ran turned over £34k in a year and made £13k profit for charity which I thought was a pretty good achievement at 17 with A-levels on the go
So anyway, any money making scheme online, I've probably researched it. I spent a fair amount of time on the exceem forum trying to get some freebie stuff for referrals - made about £250 but the amount of effort required on my part was stupid. I researched adsense for a while, and the same with forex, but again, I could've sat on my computer from 8am til 9pm and make a tonne of money, but as soon as I walked away I'd be missing important updates/market movements etc. etc. Those latter two seemed more like lifestyles, which I didn't want, so I ditched that as well.
Last thing I had a look at was swoopo - long story short, I lost £300. The guy who invented that site is a genius, and a very rich one at that
So after I stumbled on MBing on MSE and read through it, I was properly excited as it virtually foolproof, and risk free (not taking into account the human element). I started properly matched betting in June, pretty much the day after my A-levels finished. I'd discovered it a few weeks prior to that, but stopped myself signing up as I knew that I'd end up sitting in front of the screen all day instead of revising.
Over the summer I did a little here and there, mainly because I was waiting for my flexaccount to get set up, and probably made about £400 or so before jetting off to tanzania in september for 3 months. I got back in November, and made about £2000 in the space of 1.5 months. I'm now in Canada doing a bit of voluntary work for a charity and am travelling back to Africa to see their projects in action. Cutting another long story short, without that £2k, I wouldn't be able to afford the flights over the next year.
So I can't really comment on my career as I haven't had one yet, but it has helped me enormously. I completely agree as well that what you put in is what you get out which is great.
I've got two problems though - first is that come uni, I can't see myself having time to do much in between working and being a typical student, and now that I've done all the easy offers, I sense the motivation is going to decrease and decrease. Second thing is my float will be zilch by the end of this year so might be a bit stuck there!
Well that's probably it, plus I really should go and ask for some work to do... This is a bit different to all the other replies, and probably doesn't really answer the question, but there you go - not so much affected my career as my gap year, and it has done so in an incredibly good way.