Yeah I'd forgotten about that. I remember thinking that ^ whilst I was watching it - wasn't he on the committee of board directors of the top flight teams that would make up the EPL (something like that) whilst at the same time he was also going to be providing Sky with the dishes to put in peoples homes to receive the games?! AND I think went on about how he'd put in a phone call to someone at Sky to suggest they increase the bid they were tendering so that they would win (after he'd already seen some of the other bids from competitors to Sky).
Originally Posted by dk7
Of course they are.
Originally Posted by Superhans
I'm not "blaming" footballers for wages being high, it's a free market in action & although I can't understand why people would want to pay a fortune to watch millionaires have a kick about obviously lots of people do. But to say prices aren't high because of footballer's wages is daft. Footballer's wages are by far a football club's biggest expense & that's where the turnstile money goes.
It used to cost a quid to watch a top-league match. Other than footballer's wages why do you think it costs as much up to £50 a game now? Last time I checked grass seed wasn't that expensive & you can get a ball for a tenner down at Argos.
Isn't their a new rule being introduced soon that wages can only be a certain percentage of a club's income?
Even if they did drive wages down, do you think the clubs would ever pass those reductions back to fans as ticket price reductions? I very much doubt it.
I just think Owen was talking in relative terms.
I think that was in the Sugar programme and one of the arguments against it was that not all clubs have the same level of income, so you'd be creating another 'league' (or even set of leagues) within the EPL if you did that (ie the big 4 clubs would end up having one level of cap whilst others lower down the income hierarchy would have another much lower cap which just wouldn't be fair).
Originally Posted by 8burnleymik8
A really interesting / more workable / realistic capping system that was talked about though was one that UEFA might introduce soon whereby to qualify for the UEFA leagues (CL/Europa) a team must not be in debt (or must have a debt level under a certain amount, I forget how it is exactly). Not sure why the EPL don't introduce something like that (well actually it's probably because it would discourage teams from spending unsustainable amounts on players and in turn that would be bad for the EPL in terms of overseas TV sales being lower than they are currently).
Here's an article about the UEFA plan:
Uefa to crack down on debt-laden clubs like Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona | Features - KickOff Magazine
(actually it's not a question of if they do it, apparently they are introducing it over the next 3 years)
Will be interesting to see how the likes of Man Utd fair when those rules are introduced, they will be desperate to take part in the CL obviously so will be aiming to reduce their debt drastically over the next 3 years you would think. I wonder what effect that will have on their wage bill / competitiveness within the EPL against other clubs.
Originally Posted by munk
Its about time someone tried to do something, but the problem with the UEFA proposals is that Clubs have already seen it coming and owners are decreasing the debts by swapping them for extra equity (Abramovich at Chelsea) or pass the debts onto other holding companies (Man United). Which means that they will bypass the UEFA proposals.
On the wider issue of ticket prices.
I must admit, that as a Sheffield Wednesday fan, part of me hopes that we never get back to the PL (yes I know it is highly unlikely!!) simply because I will not and cannot justify paying around £50+ a ticket to watch football.
All of this just smacks of investment banking involvement to me - these kind of moves are exactly the kind of thing banks do to avoid paying tax or to flout laws with impunity aren't they. If the government can't do anything about that kind of thing then not sure UEFA will be able to. You KNOW someone somewhere (ie some back room banker) is getting rich from all of this on the back of increased ticket prices/subscription fees for the regular joe punter.
Originally Posted by passthedutchy