Very strange situation to be in feelings wise.I didnt like her and didnt like how she acted and behaved towards her fans and the people that should have counted more than anything to her.
But as a father to a daughter i cant begin to imagine how it is for the family and for me on those grounds alone its a very sad thing to have happened.
Im with eoin on this thoughts to the family.
Very odd, not sure if statistically significant though
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It's always sad when someone dies but TBH my thoughts are with the victims in Norway today.
The following may piss people off but just going to go with it anyway.
I will start by saying naturally it is always a sad day when you lose a loved ones and thought go out to her family just like they do for other far more serious and pressing issues around the world at this time.
From a personal point of view I don't understand the whole whoohar about it. The girl was a junkie who no matter how much people tried to help her, she if you believe the papers through it all back in peoples faces. Yes it is an illness, however by refusing all offers of help she made a choice to remain ill. There was a choice, either do all you can to help yourself or just say fuck it and remain the way she was. In my opinion it is people and issues like this that help to keep drugs at the forefront of society. Kids see there idols take them and refuse to get help and they think it is cool. This in turn helps keep the scum who supply drugs in business. Yes that is a very simplistic way of looking at things but can you honestly say it is wrong.
There is no sympathy from me for her, yes sympathy for her family but not for her. She made the choice.
Now I do have very close experience with these issues. My mother is a nurse who specialises in helping drug addicts and the amount of people who she sees struggling with this illness is mindblowing. So many of them however really want help and to help themselves but don't have the family support to succeed. Then you have Amy Winehouse who it appeared had all the support she could ever need and threw all that away, hell she even made a song about not wanting to listen to those that loved her. It honestly makes me sick that I see my mother doing everything she can to help people who generally want help but dont have access to much of it and then you get somebody who had the means and resurces and support to sort herself out and she just refused.
If that is who people idolise then they are mistaken in my eyes.
I was really shocked at the news - like most and have mixed emotions. I loved her music but didn't like her image. I have a 15 year old daughter, and hate the thought of Amy Winehouse being a "role model" to her - i'd never want my daughter to be like her. Equally the dad in me feels total sympathy for Amy's family, and to mock at anyone's death is very sad imo. I thought the same about all the jokes when Michael Jackson died.
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As great a musician as everyone claims she is she did not give a crap about her fans, letting them down again and again.
I hate to see anyone die and no one deserves it at such a young age, but it was brought on herself and there are a lot of totally innocent people who died in the last 48 hours who I hope are not forgotten from the blanket news Amy's death has been getting.
A human being has died and that is genuinely tragic, and no more or less sad than the loss of any other.
I've really had way too much beer tonight to be posting, and I know very little about the person, but I'd like to make a couple of observations.
Who here knows enough about this person to make any sort of judgement? Are there still people who believe what is published in the tabloids post NOTW? Can anyone trust what is printed in those rags, other than that it's designed to sell more copies, and in order to do that, it apparently works best by appealing to the worst in human nature?
Among the best artists and influential figures in history are also those who had the biggest problems fitting in with the norm. But that ability to be different and not just one of the flock is the very trait that made them able to innovate or be the artistic genius that made them *stand out* in the first place. The very personality traits or psychological differences and problems that made these people stand out are also what made them isolated, and hence a target for the types of nastiness that sells tabloids. Imagine what the tabloids would have made of the likes of e.g. Van Gough in his time? Yes, they can be pretty crazy, but we all are in our own ways.
Anyone who can respond by saying ah... but she did this or she did that; how do you know, what do you know about that and where did you get that information from? Or even if you can say that e.g. she got arrested or convicted of such and such; do you know the full story, the circumstances surrounding that? Where did you get that information from? Who has personal experience of this person and if so, even then; are you in a real position to administer simplistic judgement?
This wasn't Eastenders or Corrie. This was another person's real life.
I can't quite believe that I posted this.
Originally Posted by SlipperyFish
Had a few pints earlier and must have thought I was hilarious.
I feel ashamed.
Glad I didn't say it to someone I actually know.
+1 on this - nearly 100 people killed and the maximum he could get is 21 years in prison
Originally Posted by Odysseus