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  1. 11/03/2010 11:15 #1
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    What to do in this spot

    5NL, still trying to find my feet with the game, would like advice on how i should've played this if possible.

    I'm not great with reacting to 3bets and knowing how to size threebets.

    In this hand i think i have a strongish draw with the 9 flush cards and 3 possible Jacks.

    Button is playing 33/11 over only 9 hands

    BB is 69/29 over 36hands
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  2. 11/03/2010 11:18 #2
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    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($3.97)
    SB ($5)
    BB ($9.95)
    Hero (UTG) ($6)
    UTG+1 ($3.93)
    MP1 ($5)
    MP2 ($19.95)
    MP3 ($5.39)
    CO ($1.68)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:spade:, A:spade:
    Hero bets $0.25, 5 folds, Button raises $0.45, 1 fold, BB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

    Flop: ($1.37) 10:spade:, K:diamond:, 4:spade: (3 players)
    BB bets $1.50, [color=#CC3333]Hero??
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    The Handyman says bloody difficult to put them on a precise hand due to the flat call but perhaps more important is what you can get out of it. The real choice here is do you go all in to get all his money commited or do you smooth call it (the other player may also call, you never know).

    The pf re raise and call suggests you are against a large pair and suited connector cards like AK, KQ. The pot bet by the BB suggests he has hit something large and trying to stop anyone after him from drawing.

    What you really need to consider here is why you are playing cash games and what the end game of your tactics are? Its either small ball poker or stack attack. You have immense outs here and great ROI.

    You have $5.55 left, theres almost $3 in the middle to call $1.50 and get 2:1. There is also the slight chance that the button may call or move all in! But its the implied ROI that counts here and if we do the odds for only 2 players as 3 players would be heaven.

    The stats say if he has tptk you are still 45% to win the hand, if he has 2 pair you are 40% to win and if he has hit the set then 30% to win. If you hit your flush or straight it is very likely to be the nuts. Its only $1.50 to call leaving you with $4.05

    You have to think of it as are not getting 2:1 you are getting a shot at his stack for $1.50. In reality the chance to win $2.87 and then what you have left that he would cover, which is $4.05, a total of $6.92 (forget about the money you have to add to the pot to call or go all in) and thats 4:1

    The question is do you re raise all ins or just call?
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    The Handyman says bloody difficult to put them on a precise hand due to the flat call but perhaps more important is what you can get out of it. The real choice here is do you go all in to get all his money commited or do you smooth call it (the other player may also call, you never know).

    What do you make of my flat call of the raise and call from UTG, i'm not sure about this type of move, especially as i'm out of position when I call

    The pf re raise and call suggests you are against a large pair and suited connector cards like AK, KQ. The pot bet by the BB suggests he has hit something large and trying to stop anyone after him from drawing.

    What you really need to consider here is why you are playing cash games and what the end game of your tactics are? Its either small ball poker or stack attack. You have immense outs here and great ROI.

    I'm playing to learn the game and hopefully become a break even player, I have a bankroll of $125 and i am playing 5NL exclusively to get a feel for the game


    You have $5.55 left, theres almost $3 in the middle to call $1.50 and get 2:1. There is also the slight chance that the button may call or move all in! But its the implied ROI that counts here and if we do the odds for only 2 players as 3 players would be heaven.

    The stats say if he has tptk you are still 45% to win the hand, if he has 2 pair you are 40% to win and if he has hit the set then 30% to win. If you hit your flush or straight it is very likely to be the nuts. Its only $1.50 to call leaving you with $4.05

    You have to think of it as are not getting 2:1 you are getting a shot at his stack for $1.50. In reality the chance to win $2.87 and then what you have left that he would cover, which is $4.05, a total of $6.92 (forget about the money you have to add to the pot to call or go all in) and thats 4:1

    The question is do you re raise all ins or just call?

    That's the rub I suppose, I really wasn't sure whether to re-raise or call.

    This is how it played out:



    BB bets $1.50, Hero raises $5.55 (All-In), Button calls $3.52 (All-In), BB calls $4.05

    Turn: ($15.99) 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($15.99) 8 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $15.99

    Results:
    Button had K, A (one pair, Kings).
    BB had 10, K (two pair, Kings and tens).
    Hero had Q, A (high card, Ace).
    Outcome: BB won $15.24
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  5. 11/03/2010 17:23 #5
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    Well played my son

    The Handyman says the way you played this was great.

    Pre flop you have made a 4bb raise and then be re raised 4bb, had a caller with you still to act. AQ even when soooooted and booted is still only ace high and behind any pair during an all in situation.

    Texas Holdem is a flop game, those players who can handle and master seeing the flop will win long term.

    You will have to remember that the tbale limits mean players will play with a looser starting range, hence the 2 pair always being a likely candidate.

    Your play on the flop was perfect and the fact you 2 callers means, according to that mythical poker long term, your play was +++EV.

    Well played and remember that the next time it will be you digitally hiding behind a great wall of china chips.
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    site and table selection

    s0095063, what site do you play on and how do you make your table selection?

    What BR management do you use?
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