I wouldn't think that would be possible no, you're only allowed one Moneybookers account per person and I doubt they'd close the account just so you can reopen a new one. Always worth asking but I would give it a 1 in a 1000 chance they'd say yes!
Originally Posted by mconley
Only thing you can do is learn from it, when you're doing anything to do with referrals or affiliate links, always clear your cookies out in your browser first before you start (easiest way is to just use a totally different web browser and clear everything before you start). What's probably happened is your friend has browsed the internet, clicked on a Moneybookers affiliate link that belongs to Betsson and that has 'tracked' - so any other referral deal you try and do after that won't work because you're already tracked via the Betsson link.
If it's any consolation the referral deal with Moneybookers isn't massive, I think it's 1% of all merchant fees the referred person generates (used to be something like that anyway), so it's 1% of 2% which is 0.02% - so if you deposit £10,000 into somewhere that would only generate a £2 referral, not a great amount.
ah cheers munk i thought i was gonna lose out on loads and was gutted that bettsson had somehow nicked it off me so that has calmed me down a bit
If I use my laptop at my gf's house (usinng her braodband) does it use a different IP address?
Thinking of setting her up to make a few quid from SUBs but don't want to balls things up.
Yes it does. That's probably the best way of doing it 'for' someone else if you want to be safe, physically go around to their house, use their computer, their details etc etc. Not a lot wrong with that really.
Originally Posted by King_Suckerman
Have a plan and stick to it
Do you use the same laptop for your betting? If so you need to be careful with cookies, iesnare etc
Originally Posted by King_Suckerman
It's at least 1000x better than people who gnome away creating multiple accounts for people that they either a. don't know/don't exist/have fraudulent ID or address or b. have ACTUALLY defrauded or are in the process of defrauding.
Originally Posted by Andy
So when I said 'there's nothing wrong with that' I mean more in the sense of IF that person that they're signing up as/for actually does exist, they're someone the person knows well and they do live at that particular address AND they're doing it with them rather than behind their back or in some other way surreptitiously/fraudulently - there's nothing wrong with that in terms of them getting into trouble for doing it (the person has consented to it and for all intents and purposes (ie like you say, good luck proving otherwise) has been the sole agent in all transactions with that bookie).
End of the day I think IF you know the person you're signing up for and they agree to it etc, all of this becomes a question of morality rather than of legality - there is no way for a book to get any legal redress because proving anything illegal went on is nigh on impossible (and in fact if the person is sat there at the time bets etc are placed, is it actually 'illegal' at all?). Alternatively it's more a question of whether you personally think that placing those bets as someone else is morally correct (and a lot of the time it's easy to square it with yourself if a bookie has stiffed you over an offer or limited you to hell and back!).
I am geunuinely thinking of setting her off doing it for herself rather than just borrowing her identity. But i understand why you would assume otherwise. So nothing illegal or even immoral imo (unless you think match betting is immoral anyway, in which case you're on the wrong forum).
I'll have to think about iesnare and cookies (ta bubbles).........or keep trying to convince her that she'll get back the cost of a laptop in a few weeks.
Just been having a look at some baseball wagers tonight and the pitchers arent listed. What does (Pitcher: ACTION) mean?
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It means the bet stands regardless of which pitcher starts. In baseball, the pitchers that start the lineups make a big difference to the price/odds, so usually when bookies list the odds on moneyline bets they also list the pitcher that has to start for that price to 'stand'. If for some reason the listed pitcher doesn't start, then the odds may change significantly.
Originally Posted by bold_eagle26
By choosing 'action' you're saying that you want your bet to stand regardless of what pitcher starts. Alternatively if you choose 'listed pitcher' then that means if the pitcher changes, your bet will be voided.
You always want to choose 'listed pitcher' if you're laying the bet off somewhere (and obviously make sure you choose listed pitcher at the place you lay the bet off at as well). That way if one of the pitcher's does change, both bets will be voided and you'll be OK.
Note though that for MLB 'warm up' games, (*I think*) they usually just have 'action' for all the games because there aren't any specific pitchers to list (I think as long as there's no pitcher listed at either side then you don't have to worry about it, if they both just say 'action' then that's fine, it's only when there are pitchers listed that you want to always pick 'LP').
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