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Thanks chriso ..
just rubbish promo though .. who would play there when you can play at paddys or bet365 and (in my case) recieve your withdrawals before your payment is processed!
Casinomeisters site of the year ?? .. makes sense actually.
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 Originally Posted by goroovy
Their sign up offer ...
its 100xB .. with excluded games and restricted betting styles .. are they serious??
Yes I agree that WR is high, even for BlackJack.
But yes, 32Red are very serious; they obviously don't want players just hitting them for the SUB & then never coming back. That's their prerogative and fair enough if that's how they want to play it. At least they are up-front about it and never use "dodgy excuses or tactics" to deny winnings.
Their slots SUB is VERY good; 100% up to £250 and WR is the standard Bx30.
And their monthlies are also among the best you'll find at any MGs.
I must admit I delayed joining up there myself for a very long time because their WRs were also crazy back in 2004/2005.
In the end I took the plunge with a $100 slots bonus with silly Bx50 WR; I bust out, but since then the generous monthlies have taken me well into the black!
Each to their own 
KK
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 Originally Posted by KasinoKing
100% up to £250 and WR is the standard Bx30.
I know you do pretty well out of Slots bonuses KK but, if we assume a 95% return which seems to be about the norm, isn't the EV likely to be negative in the (very) long term on a 30xB WR?
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 Originally Posted by chriso
I know you do pretty well out of Slots bonuses KK but, if we assume a 95% return which seems to be about the norm, isn't the EV likely to be negative in the (very) long term on a 30xB WR?
Yes it is -EV (by 50% of your deposit).
But us slots players never let a little thing like -EV get in our way... 
KK
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Virgin ... does outstanding WRs carry over to next promo?
Sorry, quick question hopefully.
I baled out of the opening offer as was being raped. Now have recieved an email for a second chance .. just wondering if I can clear two promos at once WR wise?
Thanks
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 Originally Posted by goroovy
Sorry, quick question hopefully.
I baled out of the opening offer as was being raped. Now have recieved an email for a second chance .. just wondering if I can clear two promos at once WR wise?
Thanks
I don't think you can..I think you can only have one active bonus..There should be info in the bonus section on the site.. been a while since I played there so not entirely sure..
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 Originally Posted by chriso
I know you do pretty well out of Slots bonuses KK but, if we assume a 95% return which seems to be about the norm, isn't the EV likely to be negative in the (very) long term on a 30xB WR?
If it is an upfront bonus and you wager a relatively large stake size over a number of bonuses it is +EV as you will not be wagering the full amount ever because you will bust out a number of times.
Say it is ten sites, ten £50 deposit and £50 bonuses, and 30x Bonus wagering for them all. You have a total MAX wagering if £50 x 10 x 30 which is £15000. BUT you wont have to wager that much as on 9 of the 10 you may bust out at Warp Speed and only have wagered a few hundred £s at those. The payout will all be lumped into one big winner, say you win all the payout into just 1 of the 9, so you have all the 95% "Average" expected return focused into that one. You still only have to wager the £50 x 30 (£1500), all the extra bonus £s had the wagering wiped out as at a different casino.
I hope that makes sense, it is late, but basically the variance is your friend and you use a different strategy to other types of offer, you want as much variance as possible rather than trying to grind it out. Grinding it out will lead to -EV situations.
Have a plan and stick to it
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I've been holding off on Ladbrokes Sports book as the sign-up has always been a bit poor.
Are Ladbrokes still being generous with the casino offers? I'm tempted to sign-up soon to take advantage of them.
Cheers
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I thought they would do a good Ascot offer as I know a friend wanted an account, I told her to wait.. she been waiting a while and has missed out on quite a few offers...
Hmmm...not sure what's the next big event that would make them increase the offer.. Think the racing post one.. whatever that was, would probably be the one to jump in with..
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I kept a few of the big bookies back for Ascot and that turned out well.... 
Currently the RP offer for Laddies is bet £30 get a £60 free bet, which isn't too bad.
Whilst I'm a complete casino bonus newbie, from what I've heard Laddies were being very generous with their money and I feel that I might be missing out on alot of offers by not having an account.
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