Asian Handicap descriptions

[carpediem]

Does anyone know of a site which lists the different ways that bookmakers describe their various Asian Handicap markets and says which of those different descriptions are equivalent to one another?

Any help gratefully received!

[munk]

I know Canbet do a nice Handicap explanation here:

Live Asian Handicap Betting at Canbet.com

Other than that here's my bookmarks on handicapping and dutching...

Dutching
MoneySavingExpert.com Forums - View Single Post - Dutching- Any Risks?
Asian Handicaps - an explanation - Page 2 - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums
How do you tell if she's dutch.... - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums
Dutching Odds Comparison - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums

EDIT: yes I do visit MSE occasionally...

[Papa Frontwheel]

im not sure i really understand what you mean

describe their various Asian Handicap markets

. They do normally just call it the asian handicap market?

Munks links are very useful and VC also has an explanation of WHAT asian handicaps are but as for describing i am a little confused! Sorry i couldnt help more.

[joncolebet]

As the title suggest what are Asian Handicaps i see people talking about these being the best options to use but what exactly are they?

[Gibber]

The most basic answer is a handicap bet with a refund on a draw result. There are also split asians where half of your bet is on one result the other half is on another. This tutorial on vc is pretty good Asian Handicap Tutorial

My advise would be learn how to use them to your advantage asap they make for some very good dutching opportunities.

[slim]

They are similar to European Handicaps, which look like 0:1 or just Liverpool -1.

These handicaps, Euro or Asian, just subtract/add a certain amount to the goal totals of a team and the result is based on that adjusted score.

Let's look at a Euro handicap of -1. So Liverpool is playing Newcastle and the match odds are something like 1.50 for Liv, 3.60 for Draw and 5.00 for Newcastle. Some Euro/UK books will offer a handicap that looks like:

Liverpool -1 2.20, Draw -1 4.00, Necastle +1 2.00

If you bet on Liverpool -1, then you only win the bet if after adjusting their final score by -1, they still win the match. So if liverpool win 3-1, and you have bet on Liverpool -1, the adjusted score is Liverpool 2-1 and you win your bet. However if they win 2-1, the adjusted score is 1-1 and a draw, so your bet on Liverpool -1 is a loser.

Now, Asian handicaps are basically the same, except they eliminate the draw option.

With Asians if the adjusted score is a draw, the result is a push and you get your stake back. This is why, for Asians, you will only see 2 options to bet on. So you will see Liverpool -1 and Newcastle +1, but no option of betting on a Draw -1 (result is draw after adjusted score).

So with Euro handicaps you will always see 3 options to bet on. With Asian handicaps you will only see 2 options to bet on.

Another way that Asian handicaps avoid the draw is by having half point handicaps like +0.5 or +1.5. This way, there cannot be a draw after the adjusted score, someone will always be the winner after adjusting by handicaps that half points.

There are some interesting things to note about these handicaps:

1) Asian hanidcap of -0.5 is exactly the same as betting on a team to win. The only way to win Liverpool -0.5 is if they win.
2) +1 Euro Handicap is exactly the same as double chance, since you win if your team wins or draws.
3) +0.5 Asian handicap is exactly the same as +1EH and double chance, since you win if your team wins or draws

There is loads more to think about, but I hope that is agood start.

[Andy]

slimshady just gave an answer 3x better than i was going to. Basically as he has explained they are bets where your bet can be broken up into smaller bets and one team gets a head start by varying amounts. A small tip if you are wanting to bet on a certain handicap at a bookmaker and are not 100% sure on what your Net reults from it will be, open the same handicap market at betfair and pretend to place the bet (DONT submit it) and the screen explains to you ow much you would be winning and losing on each outcome.

OVERALL for your purposes Jon they are much more trouble than they are worth, dont bet on them you dont need to.

[tom]

OVERALL for your purposes Jon they are much more trouble than they are worth, dont bet on them you dont need to.

I wouldn't say that. In my opinion, if you're betting on the favourite, you should always look at the equivalent -0.5 asian handicap if available. You can often get higher odds, even at the same book.

e.g.
Liverpool vs Man City - 1.66 at Bet365
Liverpool -0.5 vs Man City +0.5 - 1.71 at Bet365.

[Andy]

Good point Tom, the -0.5 can be very usefull. Doesnt Betdaq give a lower rate of commission for using that? I think they used to.

-0.5 is the same as a team to win the match.

Overall though, for your purposes Jon, dont worry about them :-)

[slim]

Betdaq is 2% comms on all asian handicaps as is Betmate (which is only 3% comms on everything else and has the exact same liquidity as Betdaq).