New version of Grumblebus here.
As requested, it has the 1X2 and related 3-ways on the "best" sheet, along with some 2-ways also. It now has an offset feature for one-sided games - this changes the handicap in each cell, but does not move previously entered odds, so clear them before using it. Also, it would have been a horrendous job individually to check all 26 combinations in all 9 offset forms, so treat it with some caution, at least for a while.
Can't believe I'm the first person thank you and acknowledge this excellent resource. Time to consign grumblebus 4.0 to the trash bin?
Still working on my quadratic equations...
You're doing it wrong then, they're all linear
Originally Posted by eaustin
Cheers for the heads-up about the 1,1(0),2(+0.25) without the draw though, I hadn't thought of that one. Did you get the reply to your PM? I sent it as an email, so it doesn't show in my PM sentbox.
I find these spreadsheets incredibly useful. For places where the odds aren't great like EurosportBet using the grumblebus can almost make the difference between an offer being worthwhile or not. So often you can turn a 95% return using normal Betfair laying into a 98% match or better.
I generally only do the 1, X, 2 (+0.25) and 1, X, 2(0) combinations but I will have to try some of the more exotic options.
I honestly cannot say how many times the 'best' page has saved me money, in particular on the Betchronicle cashback. I generally look at the 2 odds on chronicle and see which one matches betmate the closest. Then I go to betbrain and go through that matches odds for 1X2, EH-1, and all AH's as well as plug in the odds from Man88 or 12bet on the AH's if they are better (since betbrain doesn't have 12b or Man88). Then I take a look at the lowest loss grumblers and see if any make the cashback offer worthwhile.
Also, remember that if a 4-way grumbler is a -0.64% arb and a 3-way arb is a -0.90% arb, the 3-way will likely be a smaller loss still, since the 4-way has more total stakes.
Pokebus, if you're ever in the bristol area, let me know and I'll buy you a pint
I second slimshady's enthusiasm for the Grumblebus spreadsheet and the best page in particular. Using it at the weekend I actually managed to find an arb between 3 bookies none of which are renowned for their generous odds: eurosportbet, betinternet and bet24.
BTW slim, you can customise betbrain to include both mansion88 and 12bet (BetBrain Pro > Customise Bookmakers) from the list of "extra" bookies though non-subscribers are only allowed two of these at a time.
Pokebus you seem to have edited the link to your spreadsheet out of your first post, could you add it back if possible?
Yes I've found the spreadsheet extremely useful as well, gets my nomination for post of the month - not sure why it was overlooked before, an oversight no doubt. Will mention it to Andy anyway for the next POTM.
Just placed my first ever 3 way dutch (between 188,BAB & Globetsport), would never have found it if it wasn't for your SS Pokebus!
Many thanks, this is a truly excellent tool!
New version here, OP updated too.
There's a few more combinations in there now. Also, on the "best" page I've colour-coded the bets that are actually identical, so if you enter the same odds in all the cells of the same colour, more combinations may come into play.
The 3- & 4-way combinations and the "best" page now support Malay odds as I (mistakenly I now believe) thought that SBO's Malay odds were sometimes more generous than the Euro or HK odds. If I could ever log in to their crappy site I think I'd find my first few bets were settled at decimal odds anyway.
I've tried to implement an alert system on the "best" page such that if an alternative combination is more lucrative despite a lower %ROI, then it should tell you. I'm not ever so confident how effective it is though.
And that's it.
Your an absolute genuis , how anyone can make that sheet up ill never know.
How your making alot of money match betting because you deserve every penny.