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  1. 11/11/2009 19:47 #11
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    Maybe im missing something but surely this is really hard to prove , before i started match betting i had openned a few accounts online and i used to mug punt regularly , i was putting a fair amount down on each game so before betting i would look through the odds in each bookie i was a member and take the best odds available .

    I was never to know back then that i could of possibly laid these bets off or dutched them to make a profit , i was just betting on a line the bookmaker had and im sure alot of people other than arb'rs and match bettors or whatever you like to call them do the same .

    I still mug punt and search for the best odds availabke but now i know about odds comparison sites and often the bet i take is an arb but i don't always lay it off or dutch it as i bet it , it would be impossible to prove unless betway or canbet were sharing information or somehow had access to your betfair account , so proving that soneone has laid a bet off is impossible . They put up the weak line thats not the customers fault unless it is a palp ofcourse.
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  2. 11/11/2009 20:59 #12
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    i think it's not more about arbs but from what link/ref you register.

    on one polish board few people got they account blocked with money they got, but everybody/majority of them join betway from one link - cs probably look that one account betting arbs and from affiliate link they got other accounts.
    it's easier for them than looking who bet arb i think.
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  3. 12/11/2009 05:39 #13
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    They have been bombarding me with all different casino offers lately, dunno why because I never done any casino offers with them
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  4. 18/11/2009 19:40 #14
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    both books have had these terms for some time now as far as i was aware? I have never had a problem at either books other than when canbet changed their terms, since the change and now i am aware of the new TnCs i have been in and out (busted and paid 4 figure sums) numerous times from canbet, never really bothered much with betway as their odds are shite! if you arb them will surely know! for a start it will be the only value line in the whole bloody book!!!

    it is very unlikely that you will have a big balance at canbet
    where the majority of that balance is made up of bonus balance
    ... i.e they will offer you 25% on a deposit? therefore by definition is not the majority? if your qualifier wins you will be placing majority of your balance on a bet and only 25% bonus?
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  5. 18/11/2009 21:51 #15
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    There is one post already on this:

    http://www.thegamblingtimes.com/boar...e-players.html


    Is well know they banned the entire "Money Method" users
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
    it is very unlikely that you will have a big balance at canbet ... i.e they will offer you 25% on a deposit? therefore by definition is not the majority? if your qualifier wins you will be placing majority of your balance on a bet and only 25% bonus?


    But if your qualifer loses 100% of your balance will be bonus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fella View Post
    But if your qualifer loses 100% of your balance will be bonus!
    Yes I thought that. Hopefully, it is just ambiguous wording and they mean, to put it clearly, "trying to bust out in one".

    Other examples of irregular betting for wagering requirements include, but are not limited to, placing single bets using the entire (or majority) of your account balance on a single bet, where the majority of that balance is made up of bonus balance.
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  8. 19/11/2009 12:38 #18
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    This is not related to Betway directly, but if you are doing a big free bet (so probably not applicable to UK's, but for scandinavians +++) where you have the chance of building up a big balance you should read this example of what Wagerweb prohibits. I believe the Canbet terms also specify that you can't keep placing "the majority" of your balance on single events, i.e bonus pyramiding.

    Quote Originally Posted by WagerWeb
    # Specific prohibited practices:

    Bonus Pyramiding

    Taking deposited funds plus bonus and wagering the entire amount on a single event. Upon winning, taking your entire balance and wagering on a single event. This being repeated until meeting rollover requirements and withdrawing the money. Upon withdrawal, you will receive your deposited money and winnings on the deposited money.

    Example:
    Deposit: 1,000
    Bonus: 150
    Balance: 1,150
    1st wager 1,150 to win 1,150
    2nd wager 2,300 to win 2,300
    3rd wager 4,600 to win 4,600
    New balance 9,200

    The breakdown of this balance is $8,000 from the deposit and $1,200 from the bonus.

    Withdrawal amount will be $8,000 and forfeiture of the $1,200
    Each book have different practises... one book may send you back your deposit only, another one may seize everything, and WagerWeb will seize winnings from bonus and the bonus money itself.

    As a side note, WW don't allow anyone outside north america bonuses, so no reason to go there.
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    i ALWAYS place entire balance (up to £2k) on a single outcome here?! normal balance and/or bonus balance, as Fella rightly says, which perhaps i should have explained more thoroughly... yes if the qualifier loses and you then get say £125 the following day, it is hardly irregular to place £125 on a single outcome? assuming (possibly wrongly but seems best way to do IMHO) everyone is hitting low odds 1x2 (soccer) so as not to build a mammoth balance? only releasing £10 a bet of bonus cash (£10 per bet is the max), also, i dont bother laying the bonus cash unless that qualifier loses, might not be the way that most people looking for guaranteed profit are interested in...
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    Put in the game NBA uneven amount, such as 53.88 euros, in the event of winning withdraw exactly 100 euros. Account has been blocked - the suspicion of foul play. Lucky that after sending the documents account unblocked
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