I used to swear by RTM and didn't tink I could be without it until I found ReminderFox... hardly use RTM at all now except when I'm on a machine where I don't have reminderfox installed (should really sort that out because you can sync reminders as far as I know on reminderfox). Worth checking out, really is one of the tools I can't do without now (thanks to someone on here as well, sorry forget who now!)
Originally Posted by bish
Are you in the US there? I ask because I don't think you can get Quicken in the UK can you? Would love to get a hold of it but have been stuck with MS Money for ages now.
Originally Posted by IDN101
I only use MS Money for my money transfer accounts (banks, moneybookers etc) and instead use a (probably overcomplicated) double entry system in MS Excel for all betting p&l and accounts. I would be quite tempted to change to using a system like Quicken if I could do everything in it (which it sounds like you can going on your post, very interesting indeed recording bets placed in quicken!).
My system is a bit of a headache really but I'm used to it now. The plan was always to treat it as a business... actually my setup is above in this thread so won't go on about it again.
My original system was a lovely Blue and Silver A5 ruled notebook from ASDA and i wrote in it using a LAMY fountain pen. I still have it, its full now but i keep it for nostalgia, my first online "matched bet" in there was in 2004 on the Grand National at.... Globet! (I had done a few earlier but thats the first in the book)
Originally Posted by wndllll
This was before anyone had thought to make a spreadsheet showing possible bet outcomes automatically and "lists" of bookmakers did not exist yet, etc etc. I used to do "State of the World" diagrams (Good old EC101 there ) to calculate what to back and lay. I have never moved on much from the scribbling it down method because there is really no need to overcomplicate it. I do now have a spreadsheet showing my account log in details and where i have balances and pending deposits/withdrawals but thats as complex as i get.
Have a plan and stick to it
I use a spreadsheet that I created. It has 9 tabs currently that are:
back/lay calculators - normal back/lay, adjusted lay stakes, quick calculator, etc...
Dutching calculators - inlcudes standard dutching, dutching SNR's, 4 most frequent grumblers, etc...
Current offers USD
Arbs - IW (yes, it needs it's own tab )
Accounts - lists all money related things, amounts in bookies, exchanges, e-wallets, as well as total profits, taken from bank account, etc...
and finally - sheet2 ... haven't renamed that one yet It's just currently keeping track of WR done at various US books.
On top of my own bodged together spreadsheet I also use Grumblebus, Dutch-multiback and 0-0 refund spreadsheets for quick specific calculations.
I would defy ANYONE to take my spreadsheet and try to follow the various cells that cross all 9 sheets and do all sorts of crazy calculations! Some of them have random numbers relating to past spreadsheets in the calculations that would make no sense to anyone else But it all works for me.
From now on whenever i am asked or see the question, "What advice would you give me" my answer is going to be "Copy Slim".
Just look at the recent WillHill offer if you are in doubt about that. Most people made £2 or £3 using Betfair, i think he came at it from a completely different angle and made twice that amount in a way i had not considered looking at. By contrast I looked at it for about 30 seconds and decided it was a nice day, i was never going to make more than £5 from it no matter what, and i would rather go for a walk by the river for half an hour and fed some ducks.
If you want to make more money, copy Slim, he is pretty inspirational!
Have a plan and stick to it
I have a list of bookies that I've joined in excel, although recently I've added columns for cashback/raf and what my username is.
I don't keep track of money in any way.
Like Andy, I dismissed the recent willhill £5 and also a Bet24 £5. If I could pull up records to show that I'd made £X from £5 offers in the past 12 months then that could make me start doing them more.
I think knowing where you are most profitable would be really handy, I could work on getting more from the offers I do badly in and take up more of the ones I'm good at.
But then, I just can't be arsed
How do you guys with full time jobs, kids, etc.. find the time & motivation to record all this stuff?
Can't beat the Ultimatcher spreadsheet in my opinion. I haven't found a fault with it since I've been using it at this second take of matched betting. Profit/Loss, bookie and accounts databases, cashback logging and various matching tools.
The only possible downside to it would be that if you haven't been using it before then it would be a nightmare to update your history. That's why I haven't attempted to do so from my time matched betting before.
No, I'm in the good old UK. Well, Old UK
Originally Posted by munk
Quicken is 2002 version! But it still does everything I need. I use it track all my finances- ie domestic / house accounts, personal accounts, seperate accounts for each and every "income source" (ie bookies, exchanges, cashback sites, etc).
And the sync with Pocket Quicken on my phone makes life MUCH, MUCH easier- ie as soon as you've withdrawn cash, or stuck petrol in your car- just make a quick entry on the phone. Next time I sync with laptop all the transactions get stuck into the full version.
That's why I use the software tools- I could never manage it otherwise- with full time job, toddler, etc.
Originally Posted by Clackerooney
Mind you, I find £400+ over the last 4 weeks to be quite a motivator
Cheers for that, I'll have to see if you can still get it anywhere! I know they stopped doing quicken in the UK a while ago that's why I asked... same with MS Money
Originally Posted by IDN101
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