My first Star Post nomination is for Tod1999's 'Football Tipping Challenge':
Originally Posted by tod1999
Hi to all you wonderful members of TGT...
I had an idea that i wanted to run a football tipping comp that was free to enter with cash prizes each month and yearly prizes.
Its nothing life changing I was thinking just £10 to the monthly winner and £5 to the runner up. I was thinking of having top 3 prize money for yearly comp of £100 to winner, £50 to the runner up and £25 for 3rd
The comp is FREE TO ENTER so will not cost you a penny, its just abit of fun with a litle incentive at the end
The way the comp will work is simple, everyday the will be a football fixture put up and 4 diferent markets and you have to predict the outcome of each market...
the 4 markets are......
1X2: (home win, draw or away win)
HT/FT: (outcome at ht and outcome at ft)
overs/unders: (over 2.5 goals or under 2.5 goals)
correct score: (the correct score at ft)
5pts are awarded for correct 1X2
15pts are awarded for correct HT/FT
5pts are awarded for correct overs/unders
20pts are awarded for correct correct score
25 bonus points are included for anyone who gets all 4 correct
Like i said there will be a different fixture everyday and will run everyday of the month with the 1st day being the 1st of the month and the last day being the last day of the month. The yearly comp will run until the last day of may 2010
All tables and scores will be done by myself after every game and the next game put up the night before.
Could you please leave your interest for this comp below and if there is enough interest then we can go ahead and start on saturday 1st august
Hope this is ok with the admin here, and if not then feel free to take down the thread
over and out
I think this is a fantastic thing for everyone on the forum to get involved in and I know how much is involved looking after a challenge for just a single month, so to step up and offer to do it longterm is nothing short of amazing. Thanks a million Tod!
My second star post award is for bioboybill's excellent intro/newbie guide to Asian Handicapping:
Originally Posted by bioboybill
Eventually while completing wagering (or even arbing) it is very useful to start using asian handicaps, and you can use exactly the same dutching calculator for these (except with split asian handicaps as mentioned below).
Asian handicaps are typically used to reduce a bet to two outcomes. For instance, in football they remove the draw from the equation by assigning each side a starting handicap.
Simplest option - the half goal handicap (+/-0.5)
Probably the most commonly used handicap is -0.5/+0.5. With this handicap the favourite (Team A) is given a handicap of half a goal (-0.5) and the other side (Team B) is given a half goal advantage (+0.5) goals.
If you back Team A at one bookie and Team B +0.5 at an asian book then:
If Team A wins you win at first bookie.
If it is a draw then because Team B have +0.5 goals added to their total you win at the asian book.
If Team B win you win at the asian book.
As you can see anything but a win for Team A means you win at the asian book, so effectively you have only 2 possible results.
A cheaper alternative - laying the -0.5 selection on an exchange
An alternative to dutching these asian handicaps (if you don’t have any asian books yet) is laying them at Betdaq or Betmate, where they can be layed at 2% commission. So for instance what you would do is back the favourite at the bookie and if the market is there at Betdaq lay the -0.5.
Other common Asian Handicaps
Other common Asian Handicaps you may see include:
0/0 (also known as Draw No Bet or 'Pk' (for 'Pick one (or the other!)' at US books))
0,-0.5/0,+0.5 (sometimes shown as -0.25/+0.25 or -1/4 / +1/4)
-0.5,1/+0.5,1 (sometimes shown as -0.75/+0.75 or -3/4 / +3/4)
If you are dutching these handicaps then you have to make sure you are dutching like with like (e.g dutch -2.5 with +2.5).
Push results and 'push theft'
The first in the list above (AH(0) or DNB) removes the draw from the equation altogether, so you back each side without any goals added or taken away and if it is a draw you stakes are refunded. Alternatively you can back one side at normal match odds, the other side at AH(0) and cover the draw elsewhere. There are a few bookies like Interwetten that take 10% of stakes back on AH(0) if it is a draw, but fortunately dutching calculators exist to take account of that.
Split Asian Handicaps
The last two in the list above are known as split asian handicaps. Half of your stake goes on the first part of the handicap and half on the second part. In other words if you have £50 on Team A at -0.25 you have £25 at AH(0) and £25 at -0.5.
Spreadsheets for calculating stakes for dutching with Asian Handicaps
Dutching with asian handicaps can be quite tricky. Fortunately, there are some brilliant people around who have created a raft of spreadsheets that will calculate these (and many others) for you. Examples of these are Dutchbus and Grumblebus and a couple of links to one are given below for you to download:
Dutching European Handicaps (EH) against Asian Handicaps (AH)
It is also possible to dutch European Handicaps (EH), which include the draw as a result, with Asian Handicaps (AH). Examples of common mixed AH/EH dutching possibilities are given below:
Dutch EH -1/ AH +1.5
Dutch EH -2/ AH +2.5
Dutch EH +1/ AH -0.5
There are many others, but here is an example of how this works using the first in the list:
Man Utd v West Ham
Book A has Man Utd EH -1 at odds of 2.1
Asian Book has West Ham AH +1.5 at odds of 1.95
A 2.1/1.95 dutch is a 1.11% arb according to the dutching calculator.
The possible results with these selections above are:
If Man Utd win by more than 1 goal you win at book A.
If Man Utd win by 1 goal it counts as a draw at Book A (because you take 1 goal off their score), but you win at the asian book because West Ham get 1.5 goals added to their score.
If it is a draw or West Ham win you win at the asian book again.
Advantages and Disadvantages of dutching with Asian Handicaps
Dutching using Asian Handicaps has the same advantages and disadvantages as plain dutching, but there are rarely any problems with limits at Asian books where you can usually get at least £1K on any bet and often a lot more. I also find that there are far more opportunities to dutch for profit than would otherwise be available.
Whenever I spot an arb whether it is by normal dutching or against an exchange I have a quick look at my asian books and see if I can use asian handicaps as a more profitable alternative. Even if odds look like they are getting close I will often do the same thing and find a profit can be made.
Asian Handicap specialist books
There are a number of Asian Handicap specialist books. These include:
All of these, apart from Sbobet, offer good signup offers. They do have rather large wagering requirements, but once you start using them you will soon get through them by dutching against other books and you should make a profit on every single bet.
Warnings and gotchas
One word of warning, if you try to dutch in-play using asian handicaps you need to be aware that any goals already scored in a game are already taken into account.
For example if you have backed Team A to win at a bookie and failed to get the lay in at the exchange before play starts and you found it in-play at an asian book, if the score is already 1-0 when you get to the asian book and it ends 1-0 then effectively it is a draw at the asian book as no further goals were scored after you bet.
It was a dark, slighty damp August evening. This was mainly due to having the curtains closed and incredibly wet underwear drying on the radiator. New to the TGT poker group, wobbler was first to arrive at my front door. Dressed to impress in one of the soon-to-be-banned Polyurethane swimsuits, I poured him a glass of milk - he looked quite young for a 54 year old and I didn't want to risk being raided by the cops again by serving him alco-pops. Then everyone else turned up all EXACTLY at once which I'm grateful for because to list their arrivals individually would take some time and clearly I'm a man with very little time on my hands.
To the game; the first to exit was Munk. He looked surprised (whilst I looked excited) when Butty revealed his pair. "Didn't see that one coming" shouted wndll which was a strange thing to do as he was sat only 14 inches from Butty. At this point I was feeling good about myself, lingering between 4th and 6th. "No violins for me tonight" I was saying to myself over and over - this was because I had recorded a Paul McKenna style "feel-good" CD to listen to at the table.
All of a sudden wobbler showed AA against fudge's 1010. fudge was knocked out... as he left his chair and slipped on my son's soft toy collection. The game continued and suddenly Fella decided to turn the screw into wobbler which was no way to treat a newbie. His suited A-something outdrew wobbler's hand. Meanwhile I was forgetting to play with typing this review. I realised this was why I was still in the game! wobbler's appearing a lot in the review tonight but how can I not mention he was desperate for a pee with about 15 minutes to go until the break? I turned on a tap but nothing, he must have a good bladder that's all I can say. As soon as I turned on the tap, he went all-in against me... it went from me thinking he was going to wet himself to me wetting myse... folding, folding yes... folding. By this time I had 10x BB which is really the minimum I like to have. So I thought "4/9 all-in!" and no-one called and then I had JJ and did the same to the same effect. I shouldn't be telling you the art of pokering but I've made so much from poker ($36.56) over the seven years of playing that I want to give a little back.
All this time, Andy was slumped in his chair absolutely p*ssed out of his skull. "Do you think he's ok?" asked the pizza delivery guy who'd just arrived. "He just muttered something about Craig Bellamy coming back to Norwich so I guess he's fine" Fella said as we all tied the pizza guy up Boy George stylee realising none of us actually had any cash. "What you doing guys?" he exclaimed. "That'll teach you for sending us "Dear Pizza Lover" spam through the post!" replied slim who I couldn't actually see which was fitting for his name. Slim fitting I guess *boom boom*
I was now 9th out of 11, the smallest stack at my table. I was still reliant on all-ins to pick up blinds. wobbler called my all-in, he had 33 and I had 44... I thought I could hear violins but thankfully it was just Curtis Stigers. Suddenly wobbler was gone in a hand soon after. I missed how as I was googling whether there was one G or two Gs in "Stigers" at the time but I've a feeling Butty took him out. The final table opened just in time for everyone to leave and have a pee. Strangely people stayed around to chat so Lord knows what kind of state they're in.
The comments of "gl all" flowed but I could tell no-one meant it - mainly because of the two fingers being stuck up at the same time. helmuth was at the table - I remember him from winning the first tournament two weeks ago, I made a mental note to not play him. Bubbles was here too, I had already made a note on his profile he was very good/excellent so I made a mental note to not play him. I went through all the others at the table and the conclusion was to not play anyone. But hey, I was 4th out of 10th - what was I scared of? I guess it was just that fear of losing my chips to one person instead of being able to lose them in a more controlled sharing manner.
Anyway, after being seated for the final table, I made everyone get up and dance after only one hand. Butty claimed he didn't want to sit next to nintendo who had been on a curry diet since the turn of the century. So I sat nintendo between myself and newcomer poker-donk. "Can you stop calling me donk?" tod1999 said. "Anything for you" I said as I stroked his knee in circles, a common technique used by many of the WPT pros. Bubbles went out AQ against AK from nintendo. Bubbles exited to the Super Mario Bros theme throwing his fist in the air and promising nintendo that it wasn't the last he had seen of him... which was mainly due to this being part of a summer league of poker games brought to you by TGT in conjuction with NoxWin.
Now I was 6th out of 7th after checking down a hand with Fella who showed pocket Kings against my pocket Queens. I desperately wanted to say "That's the finest pocket king I've seen for sometime" but remained silent because I have a reputation to keep and it's not going to be helped by seducing the men at the table. Then I realised Bella was at the table, "hey mamma, how you doin'?" I typed into the room. For some reason "mamma" was shown as ***** so it simply appeared I swore in the room. AK I got, all-in I went... no call. The blinds were hideous by now so I went all-in again with 67 from 1st position... no-one called. I had clearly built up a reputation of being a reserved player playing only premium hands like Gus Hansen.
Bella then outdrew poker-donk on the river. I wanted to say "mamma, you outdrew him big time!" but realised Noxwin would show this as "*****, you outdrew him big time!" I would have a lot of explanging to do and really, I don't need the stress in my life right now after being diagnosed as a muppet by my doctor. 5 left and I was in 4th. "Holy crap, I'm on the bubble" I shouted. "Get off me you freak" shouted Bubbles back. By now, Bella was clinging on which was a nice feeling. And then it happened, the blind forced Bella all-in. How would she be dealt? The answer: 84 and Fella was an automatic caller with his whopping 73. The 3 hit and Bella was unluckily out on the bubble. I got dealt AA on the BB, everyone in front folded, damn! Then KQ, everyone folded. Then I double though with AQ against AJ of Fella who had more chips than was actually in the game. Then I was out, hitting a middle pair but Fella hit trips. I wished him well by throwing my Vanilla Slice at him. I sat in the corner, jealously watching Fella and Butty go at it. And on that note, I shall leave it there for another week.
There is no need to quote it but it was basically a "heads up" to a very good offer I had no idea about until he posted it. So thats two Star posts now (You are only having one Star Icon by your name though).
Earning money has never been so easy! From September 21st until October 12th bet-at-home.com will be having a 100% bonus offer. This means that all customers that make a deposit in this time period will receive the double amount of their initial payment onto their betting account. And this can sum up to 100 Euros!
44 thanks for that one post, lots of happy people on the back of that. Thanks doomed.
My second star post for the month is for maddog's special 'TGT Web Proxy':
Originally Posted by maddog
I've finally found the time to setup a web proxy for TGT members, which I promised some time ago This allows you to access TGT (and other websites) even if your network access has been limited, i.e. due to a restrictive firewall being in place where you work.
Essentially, the web proxy works be re-directing your web traffic through a remote sever, and then to the website in question, this bypasses any network restrictions which may be in place.
It is currently password protected and I’ve deliberately avoided posting the URL, so as to prevent it being abused, however I'll send the details to any TGT regular who requests them.
Great help for people at work who are unable to access the TGT site from their workplace, thanks a lot maddog!